Superb D.940 by La Wang and Le Viking

[DeepBlue]

Yuja Wang and Vikingur Olafsson
play Schubert Fantasy in F minor

Enjoy!

[DeepBlue]

Post by DeepBlue
Yuja Wang and Vikingur Olafsson
play Schubert Fantasy in F minor
http://youtu.be/uXLZxx04zw4

Lowering my earlier assessment from
"superb" to just "excellent". Still
worth hearing, though not listening
again.

Cheers!

[Zionazi]

Post by DeepBlue

Post by DeepBlue
Yuja Wang and Vikingur Olafsson
play Schubert Fantasy in F minor
http://youtu.be/uXLZxx04zw4

Lowering my earlier assessment from
"superb" to just "excellent". Still
worth hearing, though not listening
again.

Not worth hearing either… still Eschenbach and Frantz…

How can you even rate this as excellent; and I‘d think sth excellent
would worth hearing again… this does not make any sense — in the Morning
or in the evening…

Post by DeepBlue
Cheers!

[DeepBlue]

Post by Zionazi

Post by DeepBlue

Post by DeepBlue
Yuja Wang and Vikingur Olafsson
play Schubert Fantasy in F minor
http://youtu.be/uXLZxx04zw4

Lowering my earlier assessment from
"superb" to just "excellent". Still
worth hearing, though not listening
again.

Not worth hearing either… still
Eschenbach and Frantz… How can
you even rate this as excellent;

Because I understand piano performance
while you do not have a clue. La Wang
is a better pianist than either Mr. or
Mrs. Eschenbach. The latter may sound
more "musical" according to someone's
taste and definition of "musical", but
they are not as capable pianists as La
Wang.

Capisce?

Cheers!

[Zionazi]

Post by DeepBlue

Post by Zionazi

Post by DeepBlue

Post by DeepBlue
Yuja Wang and Vikingur Olafsson
play Schubert Fantasy in F minor
http://youtu.be/uXLZxx04zw4

Lowering my earlier assessment from
"superb" to just "excellent". Still
worth hearing, though not listening
again.

Not worth hearing either… still
Eschenbach and Frantz… How can
you even rate this as excellent;

Because I understand piano performance
while you do not have a clue. La Wang
is a better pianist than either Mr. or
Mrs. Eschenbach. The latter may sound
more "musical" according to someone's
taste and definition of "musical", but
they are not as capable pianists as La
Wang.
Capisce?

You got triggered again ;D

We all know you would recommend it (just as you did in the past - and
rightfully so) as the top Choice here, which obviously implies that its
worth hearing more than once (which makes it a better Recording even for
you) — so cut the bullshit ;)

Whether Wang has superior technique to Eschenbach is of no interest here
— which really is the only thing in which she might excel Eschenbach —
what is of interest is the music… and obviously you cant find her that
musical, if shes only worth hearing once… how about reflecting on what
youve said — you are contradicting yourself as usual (narcissism)

Don’t get yourself triggered that easily

Shes probably also a „better“ Pianist than Schnabel and Friedman, but
musically she has a very very Bad Taste (although some things she does
are beautiful in this piece — which could be a reason to Hear this more
than once; Not because her Performance is „excellent“, but because of
some parts being interesting)… also I don’t think Schnabel to be
technically deficient, isnt it his technique that made many of his
recordings so beautiful?… his technique Seemed to be „enough“ to cast
magic ;)

Saying the Performance is excellent while Adding that it’s Not worth
hearing more than once as you did, doesnt really make much sense Dan…
not difficult to understand, only for narcissistic bitches like yourself
:)

No capisce as usual I guess ;)

Post by DeepBlue
Cheers!

[Zionazi]

Dan meets Wang After the concert:

„yo this was really an excellent performance“

Wang:

„Wow thank you“

Dan:

„It’s only worth hearing once though“

Wang:

„Wtf?!“

[Owen Hartnett]

Post by Zionazi
„yo this was really an excellent performance“
„Wow thank you“
„It’s only worth hearing once though“
„Wtf?!“

To paraphrase one of the better slogans of the womens movement:

"So many recordings, so little time."

-Owen

P.S. I thought it was excellent performance. There isn't any attempt at
glitter, it's fine music making. The opening theme, which sounds like a
painful request for relief which is expected by the supplicant to be refused
(sorry for interjecting some programme into the music!), is full of emotion.
BTW, I've listened to it 3 times so far.



P.P.S. Yuja should stop and talk to me after a performance, instead of Dan.

-O

[Zionazi]

Post by Owen Hartnett

Post by Zionazi
„yo this was really an excellent performance“
„Wow thank you“
„It’s only worth hearing once though“
„Wtf?!“

"So many recordings, so little time."
-Owen
P.S. I thought it was excellent performance. There isn't any attempt at
glitter, it's fine music making. The opening theme, which sounds like a
painful request for relief which is expected by the supplicant to be refused
(sorry for interjecting some programme into the music!), is full of emotion.
BTW, I've listened to it 3 times so far.

Yes, I find it in some ways over dramatic maybe — i was at First caught
off guard by this (in a positive sense - i like the pacing), Not quite
Sure what to make out of it (one of the parts i thought were beautiful
or at least interesting (she seems to bring out some things more than
Eschenbach (also because of Pacing ofc), but maybe she accentuates too
much too often; just listened to it again)) — there is much more
innocence conceyed in how Eschenbach plays it… although id like it
played a Little slower; Olafsson is just super dry btw

Post by Owen Hartnett
P.P.S. Yuja should stop and talk to me after a performance, instead of Dan.
-O

[Owen Hartnett]

Post by Zionazi

Post by Owen Hartnett

Post by Zionazi
„yo this was really an excellent performance“
„Wow thank you“
„It’s only worth hearing once though“
„Wtf?!“

"So many recordings, so little time."
-Owen
P.S. I thought it was excellent performance. There isn't any attempt at
glitter, it's fine music making. The opening theme, which sounds like a
painful request for relief which is expected by the supplicant to be refused
(sorry for interjecting some programme into the music!), is full of emotion.
BTW, I've listened to it 3 times so far.

Yes, I find it in some ways over dramatic maybe — i was at First caught
off guard by this (in a positive sense - i like the pacing), Not quite
Sure what to make out of it (one of the parts i thought were beautiful
or at least interesting (she seems to bring out some things more than
Eschenbach (also because of Pacing ofc), but maybe she accentuates too
much too often; just listened to it again)) — there is much more
innocence conceyed in how Eschenbach plays it… although id like it
played a Little slower; Olafsson is just super dry btw

I hadn't connected this work with innocence, more like guilt. But that kind of
emotional richness is not something you usually expect from Yuja, and I think
that's why both Dan and I reacted positively to it.

-Owen

[Zionazi]

Post by Owen Hartnett

Post by Zionazi

Post by Owen Hartnett

Post by Zionazi
„yo this was really an excellent performance“
„Wow thank you“
„It’s only worth hearing once though“
„Wtf?!“

"So many recordings, so little time."
-Owen
P.S. I thought it was excellent performance. There isn't any attempt at
glitter, it's fine music making. The opening theme, which sounds like a
painful request for relief which is expected by the supplicant to be refused
(sorry for interjecting some programme into the music!), is full of emotion.
BTW, I've listened to it 3 times so far.

Yes, I find it in some ways over dramatic maybe — i was at First caught
off guard by this (in a positive sense - i like the pacing), Not quite
Sure what to make out of it (one of the parts i thought were beautiful
or at least interesting (she seems to bring out some things more than
Eschenbach (also because of Pacing ofc), but maybe she accentuates too
much too often; just listened to it again)) — there is much more
innocence conceyed in how Eschenbach plays it… although id like it
played a Little slower; Olafsson is just super dry btw

I hadn't connected this work with innocence, more like guilt. But that kind of
emotional richness is not something you usually expect from Yuja, and I think
that's why both Dan and I reacted positively to it.

Yeah innocence is the wrong Word here probably, the sonata is too
Playful and impish at times though to me to Portray a Deep Sense of
guilt…

Maybe it’s more like a goodbye to viewing the world innocently, coming
to the realization that doing Good things doesnt always work out, and it
crumbles under your Hand, but its done in a Consoling and playful manner
— very melancholic, Full of longing, not so much if guilt i think…

Sehnsucht

(Or in the Sense of „I didnt want to hurt you, but I had to)

Post by Owen Hartnett
-Owen

[Zionazi]

Granted I Havent given the narrative of the sonata much thought; I try
to Trust my senses in guiding me to good Performances instead of
studying and Making my mind up about a piece beforehand… I mostly Read
about the pieces much later (or everytime?)

[Zionazi]

In some ways the end of the „innocent“ classical era of music; Late
Schubert work

[Zionazi]

Innocent classical era re music „music in its infancy“

[DeepBlue]

Post by Owen Hartnett
I hadn't connected this work with innocence,
more like guilt. But that kind of emotional
richness is not something you usually expect
from Yuja, and I think that's why both Dan
and I reacted positively to it.

It is a good performance, though not the
greatest, worth hearing once or twice if
nothing more interesting is at hand.

Looking back at La Wang's performances on
stage and on YT one cannot help but notice
that she sounds better in chamber music
works than in solo works. She has also
been improving musically, though at the
rate she is improving she would probably
be 100 before she can be a match for a
serious pianist like Volodos or HJ Lim.

Cheers!

[Zionazi]

Yeah naa… it’s too much for me; def eschenbach- he also brings things
out Nicely and pacing — as well as phrasing — very good- best Recording
for this piece