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Taste update: Done with Bach and Schumann
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Zionazi
2025-01-13 11:24:50 UTC
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Just chiming in to get this off my chest...

so yeah, just like with a lot of other composers I'm done with them...

Fav composers:

1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert
4/5) Haydn/Brahms

Composers I feel are quite inspiring as well: Schönberg, Webern and Berg

R Strauss and Ravel have some cool stuff as well I guess; beautiful and
very interesting soundscapes... problem with Chopin is: too schmaltzy;
Chopin is also not mischievous... he's like... dunno full of himself,
very unfunny... no bite, Chopin is like a vegetarian and Debussy is like
a vegan... no bite...

fav Mozart opera recordings update:

Idomeneo: Gardiner (Archiv)
Serail: *Beecham (EMI), Fricsay (DG) (and Krips (Warner) - not so fond
of Gedda, but the accompaniment is just really good and I like Popp)
nozze: Fricsay (DG), *Suitner (Berlin Classics)
DG: Fricsay (DG), *Klemperer (Warner)
cosi: *Böhm (Decca, Warner), Östman (Decca)
Zauberflöte: Bergman (Arthaus), *Fricsay (DG) (and Klemperer (Warner)
for some special moments)
DeepBlue
2025-01-13 17:14:11 UTC
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Post by Zionazi
Just chiming in to get this off my chest...
so yeah, just like with a lot of other
composers I'm done with them...
Dude, with so many frequent taste updates
your tongue is going to fall out soon! ;-)

Drink some vinegar, it will make your
chest feel so much better! ;-)

Cheers!
Zionazi
2025-01-13 18:59:28 UTC
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Post by Zionazi
Just chiming in to get this off my chest...
so yeah, just like with a lot of other composers I'm done with them...
1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert
4/5) Haydn/Brahms
Just letting y'all know I'm done with Haydn as well... I think one can
hardly listen to him anymore today... think about the shape of the world
today... Bach is certainly better, but I don't like him too much... he's
likely a master of counterpoint, and it's certainly sth which was
unjustly forgotten during the homophonic style classical era, but I
dunno... Mozart was still good... and as opposed to Haydn I think
Mozart, Beethoven and also Schubert still have some bitterness... and
they are not as dry as Bach... now hmmm Brahms... well... probably going
to ditch him as well... sure he has counterpoint... but fucking hell...
yeah no... I'm done with him as well... the only pieces of Brahms I
still kind of have some interest in are his late piano pieces, the rest
can be burned... so maybe add him to some of the *inspired composers

so:

1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert
Post by Zionazi
Composers I feel are quite inspiring as well: Schönberg, Webern and Berg
*add Brahms to these composers

*quite inspired; and have interesting pieces... Schönberg (5 pieces for
orchestra for example), Webern (5 movements for string quartet), Webern
(Lyric Suite)...
Zionazi
2025-01-13 19:24:46 UTC
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Post by Zionazi
Post by Zionazi
Just chiming in to get this off my chest...
so yeah, just like with a lot of other composers I'm done with them...
1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert
4/5) Haydn/Brahms
Just letting y'all know I'm done with Haydn as well... I think one can
hardly listen to him anymore today... think about the shape of the world
today... Bach is certainly better, but I don't like him too much... he's
likely a master of counterpoint, and it's certainly sth which was
unjustly forgotten during the homophonic style classical era, but I
dunno... Mozart was still good... and as opposed to Haydn I think
Mozart, Beethoven and also Schubert still have some bitterness... and
they are not as dry as Bach... now hmmm Brahms... well... probably going
to ditch him as well... sure he has counterpoint... but fucking hell...
yeah no... I'm done with him as well... the only pieces of Brahms I
still kind of have some interest in are his late piano pieces, the rest
can be burned... so maybe add him to some of the *inspired composers
1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert
Post by Zionazi
Composers I feel are quite inspiring as well: Schönberg, Webern and Berg
*add Brahms to these composers
*quite inspired; and have interesting pieces... Schönberg (5 pieces for
orchestra for example), Webern (5 movements for string quartet), Webern
(Lyric Suite)...
*maybe add R. Strauss and Ravel here as well... I don't think of them as
highly I guess... but I still like to listen to them and think they have
some interesting works so ya... so it's

1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert

and: Brahms, R. Strauss, Ravel, Schönberg, Webern and Berg

cya laters
Zionazi
2025-01-14 10:22:55 UTC
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Post by Zionazi
Just chiming in to get this off my chest...
so yeah, just like with a lot of other composers I'm done with them...
1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert
4/5) Haydn/Brahms
Just letting y'all know I'm done with Haydn as well... I think one can
hardly listen to him anymore today... think about the shape of the world
today... Bach is certainly better, but I don't like him too much... he's
likely a master of counterpoint, and it's certainly sth which was
unjustly forgotten during the homophonic style classical era, but I
dunno... Mozart was still good... and as opposed to Haydn I think
Mozart, Beethoven and also Schubert still have some bitterness... and
they are not as dry as Bach... now hmmm Brahms... well... probably going
to ditch him as well... sure he has counterpoint... but fucking hell...
yeah no... I'm done with him as well... the only pieces of Brahms I
still kind of have some interest in are his late piano pieces, the rest
can be burned... so maybe add him to some of the *inspired composers
1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert
Post by Zionazi
Composers I feel are quite inspiring as well: Schönberg, Webern and Berg
*add Brahms to these composers
*quite inspired; and have interesting pieces... Schönberg (5 pieces for
orchestra for example), Webern (5 movements for string quartet), Webern
(Lyric Suite)...
*maybe add R. Strauss and Ravel here as well... I don't think of them as
highly I guess... but I still like to listen to them and think they have
some interesting works so ya... so it's
1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Schubert
and: Brahms, R. Strauss, Ravel, Schönberg, Webern and Berg
Yeah… actually Im Not Done with Bach; Musical offering (alongside the
Keyboard partitas and solo violin and solo Cello) is good enough for me
to consider him as one of my favorites…

Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Brahms, R. Strauss, Schönberg,
(Ravel,) Webern, Berg…

If anything about this changes Ill be back
Post by Zionazi
cya laters
DeepBlue
2025-01-14 17:48:27 UTC
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Post by Zionazi
Yeah… actually Im Not Done with Bach;
Musical offering (alongside the Keyboard
partitas and solo violin and solo Cello)
is good enough for me to consider him as
one of my favorites…
Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Brahms,
R. Strauss, Schönberg, (Ravel,) Webern, Berg…
If anything about this changes Ill be back
Dude, you are going in circles.
Sooner or later you will get
dizzy and lose your balance.

Why don't you stick to just
one composer -- or better
yet to a metronome, which
can provide all the music
you need delivered at the
tempo you choose.

Cheers!

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