What's a piece of paper and pressed CDs versus CD-Rs worth? Hundreds of Dollars

[Pluted Pup]

Here's some Marston CDs, pressed CDs with printed
packaging, and the proof of how much it's worth
so far, as opposed to CD-Rs that come without printed
paper and / or cardboard:

Mahler decade (1897-1907), 2 CDs: US $255.00 + ?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/405213637620

Complete Vladimir de Pachmann, 4 CDs: US $135.28 + ?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/405213683460

They're still at auction, so who knows what they'll
really see for?

There is not a bit or data offered in these sealed
originals that is not available legally from Marston
on CD-R, and not a character of printed material
that is not available free of charge from Marston
in their catalog.

This only reinforces the -- so obvious it's never
said -- idea that printed material is worth something
over "digital only" and that pressed CDs are worth
more than CD-Rs, particularly because Marston is doing
actually honest full reissues on CD-Rs, as opposed to
the bare boned stuff that the major labels do, who
figuratively throw their liner notes and librettos into
the trash and pretending that "print is obsolete".

So many non-readers of books berate us collectors
for reading printed books or non-collectors of
music say that anything that's not on spotify is
luddite garbage that they gloss over that what
they are hyping is a sharp reduction of the available
catalog.

[Todd M. McComb]

So many non-readers of books berate us collectors for reading
printed books or non-collectors of music say that anything that's
not on spotify is luddite garbage that they gloss over that what
they are hyping is a sharp reduction of the available catalog.

I think you're really mixing two situations here, namely availability
and the desire of some people -- call them, collectors, let's say...
-- to collect physical products. There's really no question that
digital distribution has improved availability overall, meaning
that there is more quantity of music (in sum) available now than
before, but you're right to observe that that doesn't mean the
situation has improved for everything. You are certainly correct
to note that many books have never made the leap to digital.

[Raymond Hall]

Post by Todd M. McComb

So many non-readers of books berate us collectors for reading
printed books or non-collectors of music say that anything that's
not on spotify is luddite garbage that they gloss over that what
they are hyping is a sharp reduction of the available catalog.

I think you're really mixing two situations here, namely availability
and the desire of some people -- call them, collectors, let's say...
-- to collect physical products. There's really no question that
digital distribution has improved availability overall, meaning
that there is more quantity of music (in sum) available now than
before, but you're right to observe that that doesn't mean the
situation has improved for everything. You are certainly correct
to note that many books have never made the leap to digital.

I simply cannot imagine anyone reading a book entirely digitally. Or
ever the need to do so.

Ray Hall, Taree

[Todd M. McComb]

Post by Raymond Hall
I simply cannot imagine anyone reading a book entirely digitally.
Or ever the need to do so.

Seems like a serious lack of imagination.... :-)

But I do prefer real, physical books when available. Many books
are no longer available though. When I mentioned the digital divide
there, I meant it more broadly, in that they're not appearing in
databases. (A lot of what made it into databases has been transcribed
digitally. Which means, of course, that it's searchable, at least
in principle.)

[Pluted Pup]

Post by Pluted Pup
Here's some Marston CDs, pressed CDs with printed
packaging, and the proof of how much it's worth
so far, as opposed to CD-Rs that come without printed
Mahler decade (1897-1907), 2 CDs: US $255.00 + ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/405213637620
Complete Vladimir de Pachmann, 4 CDs: US $135.28 + ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/405213683460
They're still at auction, so who knows what they'll
really see for?

Here you go:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn=marstonrecords&LH_Complete=1

I bought the Eugenia Burzio CDs used years ago, for
the then standard new CD prices.

I still don't know what "verismo" means.

Post by Pluted Pup
There is not a bit or data offered in these sealed
originals that is not available legally from Marston
on CD-R, and not a character of printed material
that is not available free of charge from Marston
in their catalog.
This only reinforces the -- so obvious it's never
said -- idea that printed material is worth something
over "digital only" and that pressed CDs are worth
more than CD-Rs, particularly because Marston is doing
actually honest full reissues on CD-Rs, as opposed to
the bare boned stuff that the major labels do, who
figuratively throw their liner notes and librettos into
the trash and pretending that "print is obsolete".
So many non-readers of books berate us collectors
for reading printed books or non-collectors of
music say that anything that's not on spotify is
luddite garbage that they gloss over that what
they are hyping is a sharp reduction of the available
catalog.

[Raymond Hall]

Post by Pluted Pup

Post by Pluted Pup
Here's some Marston CDs, pressed CDs with printed
packaging, and the proof of how much it's worth
so far, as opposed to CD-Rs that come without printed
Mahler decade (1897-1907), 2 CDs: US $255.00 + ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/405213637620
Complete Vladimir de Pachmann, 4 CDs: US $135.28 + ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/405213683460
They're still at auction, so who knows what they'll
really see for?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn=marstonrecords&LH_Complete=1
I bought the Eugenia Burzio CDs used years ago, for
the then standard new CD prices.
I still don't know what "verismo" means.

In the context of opera, the word "verismo" implies realism. At the
beginning of the 20th century, the subjects of many operas veered
towards the common people, far removed from any stylised icons or
mythical figures. The operas of Britten, and Janacek, especially, are
mostly given to subjects concerning "ornery" people.

Ray Hall, Taree

[mINE109]

Post by Raymond Hall

Post by Pluted Pup
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn=marstonrecords&LH_Complete=1
I bought the Eugenia Burzio CDs used years ago, for
the then standard new CD prices.
I still don't know what "verismo" means.

In the context of opera, the word "verismo" implies realism. At the
beginning of the 20th century, the subjects of many operas veered
towards the common people, far removed from any stylised icons or
mythical figures. The operas of Britten, and Janacek, especially, are
mostly given to subjects concerning "ornery" people.

True, and commonly associated with Italian works such as Cavalleria
rusticana, Pagliacci, etc.