I'm so fucking done with Brahms

[Zionazi]

and Schumann. And Mahler.

Fav composers:

Mozart
Beethoven
Bach
Haydn/Schubert

-- I also appreciate quite a bit of Schoenberg, Berg and Webern. Have to
listen further. But generally I'm fucking done with most composers...

[Zionazi]

Fucking done with Haydn as well;

Fav composers:

1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Bach
4) Schubert

[Pluted Pup]

Post by Zionazi
and Schumann. And Mahler.
Mozart
Beethoven
Bach
Haydn/Schubert
-- I also appreciate quite a bit of Schoenberg, Berg and Webern. Have to
listen further. But generally I'm fucking done with most composers...

11 named composers in random order: Brahms, Schumann, Mahler,
Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Haydn, Schubert, Schoenberg, Berg
and Webern.

So you got an 11 sided die from the game store?

Keep rollin' the dice

[DeepBlue]

Post by Pluted Pup

Post by Zionazi
and Schumann. And Mahler.
Mozart
Beethoven
Bach
Haydn/Schubert
-- I also appreciate quite a bit of Schoenberg, Berg and Webern. Have to
listen further. But generally I'm fucking done with most composers...

11 named composers in random order: Brahms, Schumann, Mahler,
Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Haydn, Schubert, Schoenberg, Berg
and Webern.
So you got an 11 sided die from the game store?
Keep rollin' the dice

Pluted dice ?!? ;-)

Cheers!

[Zionazi]

I want to add that I prefer Schumann, Tchaikovsky and Mahler over
Brahms.

[Zionazi]

Also prefer Haydn over Brahms…

I should maybe add that I have (aesthetical) problems with Mahler,
Schumann and Tchaikovsky, but they’re more interesting to me… if I had
lived at that time and were a composer, I probably would’ve been more
inspired by the music of Schumann and Tchaikovsky and also Wagner than
Brahms (and Mahler too, but he came pretty much at the end of Brahms‘
life)… so if I would’ve wanted to write - say - a symphony I would’ve
looked at Wagner to be inspired by… not Brahms…

[DeepBlue]

Post by Zionazi
Also prefer Haydn over Brahms…
I should maybe add that I have (aesthetical) problems with Mahler,
Schumann and Tchaikovsky, but they’re more interesting to me… if I had
lived at that time and were a composer, I probably would’ve been more
inspired by the music of Schumann and Tchaikovsky and also Wagner than
Brahms (and Mahler too, but he came pretty much at the end of Brahms‘
life)… so if I would’ve wanted to write - say - a symphony I would’ve
looked at Wagner to be inspired by… not Brahms…

And you would have become a 7th rate Bruckner.

Cheers!

[Zionazi]

Post by DeepBlue

Post by Zionazi
Also prefer Haydn over Brahms…
I should maybe add that I have (aesthetical) problems with Mahler,
Schumann and Tchaikovsky, but they’re more interesting to me… if I had
lived at that time and were a composer, I probably would’ve been more
inspired by the music of Schumann and Tchaikovsky and also Wagner than
Brahms (and Mahler too, but he came pretty much at the end of Brahms‘
life)… so if I would’ve wanted to write - say - a symphony I would’ve
looked at Wagner to be inspired by… not Brahms…

And you would have become a 7th rate Bruckner.

Rather sth like Mahler's music, likely sth better - since I would have
primarily composed and not bothered conducting as much as Mahler ;)

You have little imagination. Go listen to that brat Uehara.

Post by DeepBlue
Cheers!

[Zionazi]

Hiromi ofc, not Ayako.

[Zionazi]

Actually fuck Tchaikovsky as well... there are some nice things... but
too much shite...

[Zionazi]

Certainly Brahms above Tchaikovsky...

but... I like Schumann and Mahler more than Brahms it seems... really...
there is not much in Brahms I like - especially not as much as things I
like in Schumann or Mahler... Brahms is quite tedious, like everytime I
lsiten to him I get fucking sleepy, and his music feels like a warm
blanket being pulled over me.... I mean would you take your gf out to a
brahms piano concert?... or a symphony`? Fuck no - same with Bruckner...
or yes... Wagner... Not me at least... and Mahler neither... except for
Symphony 4, Rückert-Lieder and LVDE probably... Wagner on piano
though... I think it can sound good... But as we all know, Hamas-Herman
took his gf out to see Bruckner. No sex that evening.

In his pcs... those massive orchestras - it sucks so bad, doesn't work
at all, trying to hard... omg... and no, I don't think Mackerras Brahms
is the way to go...

[Zionazi]

oh and probably also Kindertotenlieder, maybe even Symphony 9...

[Zionazi]

I know I've been through this before, but I gotta say - again -, I
actually prefer Brahms over Mahler, but generally, I don't like both too
much... Schumann I guess I like best of them all (romantic era)...

The only composers that composed pieces I like from beginning to end
(and who btw also added something new) are Mozart, Beethoven, Bach and
Schubert... and likely also Haydn... apart from these, I really only
like to listen to more modern stuff and some Schumann is also alright I
guess... Scriabin is also interesting in some ways maybe - should
probably relisten...

Prokofiev no thx, Rachmaninov no thx, Tchaikovsky no thx, Sibelius no
thx, and all the other names that pop up in my head... no thx... Bartok
no thx, Wagner no thx, Schostakovich no thx... Chopin no thx...

[Zionazi]

*Webern op 5 is a more modern piece I seem to like from beginning to end
-- still have to let it sink in though.

[Zionazi]

Hmmm fuck it… I prefer Brahms to Schumann….

[Zionazi]

Really having trouble with the romantic era...

[Zionazi]

No, I'm fucking done with Brahms... not sure if I'm done with Schumann
and Haydn yet, I don't think so.

[Zionazi]

Can't decide whether I like Brahms or Mahler more... but Mahler has
moments which I think are more beautiful than any of Brahms'... so I
guess Mahler...

[Zionazi]

Post by Zionazi
No, I'm fucking done with Brahms... not sure if I'm done with Schumann
and Haydn yet, I don't think so.

And I think even Tchaikovsky has more beautiful moments... like... it is
interesting what Brahms does, but it never grabs me... or seldom it does
grab me... sure there is much about Tchaikovsky that irritates me often,
but at least there is sth that grabs me... Brahms is just...
interesting... from the distance, like "even" the second viennese school
has stuff that grabs me more than anything Brahms wrote, even Wagner
wrote stuff which grabs/grabbed me more at least in some ways...

[Zionazi]

Scriabin too, I'd rather like to play his stuff than Brahms'

[Zionazi]

But I still think I'd rate Brahms a little over Wagner (as there moments
in Brahms' works which grab me as well - and more intimately); don't
like Wagner too much, similar Brahms for different reasons.

So fav composers:

1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Bach
4) Schubert

And then I also like some: Haydn, Schumann, maybe Tchaikovsky, maybe
Mahler, probably Scriabin, Schoenberg, Webern and Berg.

[Zionazi]

Ok I think I’ve finally realized this… no Tchaikovsky no Brahms no
Wagner no Mahler for me…

So my fav composers:

1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Bach
4) Schubert

Further I like: Haydn, Schumann, maybe Scriabin, Schoenberg, Webern,
Berg

[Zionazi]

Post by Zionazi
Ok I think I’ve finally realized this… no Tchaikovsky no Brahms no
Wagner no Mahler for me…

Out of these though I like Brahms the most - by far.

[Zionazi]

Yeah I really seem to like Scriabin — much more than Brahms. Probably
the best Russian composer…

[Zionazi]

Fav composer update:

1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Bach
4) Schubert

Further: Haydn, Schumann, Scriabin, Schoenberg, Webern, Berg

--

Will relisten to: Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Liszt, Rachmaninov... maybe also
Ravel... I'm really not into Debussy...

[Zionazi]

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Post by Zionazi
Ok I think I’ve finally realized this… no Tchaikovsky no Brahms no
Wagner no Mahler for me…

Out of these though I like Brahms the most - by far.

No I like Tchaikovsky the most by far.

[Zionazi]

Fuck everything I said before; I guess I realized now Brahms is one of
my favorites…. He beat all the composers I pitted him against… far
better than Wagner, Tchaikovsky, Scriabin or Rachmaninov…. Etc etc

So fav composers update:

1) Mozart
2) Beethoven
3) Bach
4) Schubert

Further I like: Haydn, Brahms, Schoenberg, Webern and Berg…

Yeah… German composers are the best.

[Zionazi]

I guess I also like Brahms more than Schumann… not sure if I like him
more than Haydn though… probably around the same…

[Zionazi]

Thinking about adding Ravel and/or Mahler to the composers "I further
like"... hmmm...

[Zionazi]

really like Ravel's piano works (Michelangeli is so good, Gaspard de la
nuit Vatican; pc1 -- Celibidache orchestral performances, Daphnis et
Chloé etc...)

And maybe also Wagner... I think I might actually need Ravel... yes ...

[Zionazi]

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Post by Zionazi

Post by Zionazi
Ok I think I’ve finally realized this… no Tchaikovsky no Brahms no
Wagner no Mahler for me…

Out of these though I like Brahms the most - by far.

No I like Tchaikovsky the most by far.

Forget I done with both

[Zionazi]

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Post by Zionazi
No I like Tchaikovsky the most by far.

Forget I done with both

*Forget it, I'm done with both.

Fuck Rachmaninov honestly... wtf... fucking sucks so bad... Scriabin all
the way; also Tchaikovsky is far better than Rach.