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Miguel Montfort
2006-05-23 11:55:19 UTC
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From DG’s website:

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Monique Haas - Complete Recordings on DG
477 620-1 (8CDs)

* Monique Haas was one of DG's principal pianists
in the 1950s. Her play is marked by its elegance,
passion and wonderful articulation. Here, for the
first time, we present the complete recorded lega-
cy of this great artist on CD

* This is a wide-ranging box - from Haydn and Mozart
to Bartók and Mihalovici (Haas's Rumanian husband)

* Featured artists include conductors Eugen Jochum
and Ferdinand Leitner, but above all violinist
Max Rostal, who gives a marvellous account of
the Ravel Sonata, along with Marcel Mihalovici's
Second Violin Sonata>

* Other highlights include Mozart piano duet and
two-piano works with Heinz Schroter - brilliantly
virtuosic and a wonderful partnership; the award-
winning recording of the Debussy Etudes, which
has come up excellently in its first CD transfer

* Rarities include test recordings for DG from
1949 - individual pieces by Debussy
----------------------------------------------------

I’m absolutely looking forward tho this!
Now, if only DG could be talked into releasing
complete sets of von Karolyi, Roloff, Foldes &
Aeschbacher, too...

Miguel Montfort
tomdeacon
2006-05-23 13:53:54 UTC
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Post by Miguel Montfort
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Monique Haas - Complete Recordings on DG
477 620-1 (8CDs)
* Monique Haas was one of DG's principal pianists
in the 1950s. Her play is marked by its elegance,
passion and wonderful articulation. Here, for the
first time, we present the complete recorded lega-
cy of this great artist on CD
* This is a wide-ranging box - from Haydn and Mozart
to Bartók and Mihalovici (Haas's Rumanian husband)
* Featured artists include conductors Eugen Jochum
and Ferdinand Leitner, but above all violinist
Max Rostal, who gives a marvellous account of
the Ravel Sonata, along with Marcel Mihalovici's
Second Violin Sonata>
* Other highlights include Mozart piano duet and
two-piano works with Heinz Schroter - brilliantly
virtuosic and a wonderful partnership; the award-
winning recording of the Debussy Etudes, which
has come up excellently in its first CD transfer
* Rarities include test recordings for DG from
1949 - individual pieces by Debussy
----------------------------------------------------
I'm absolutely looking forward tho this!
Now, if only DG could be talked into releasing
complete sets of von Karolyi, Roloff, Foldes &
Aeschbacher, too...
Yes, Miguel. I heard MH once. Tiny woman. Not a huge sound, but a
gifted pianist in the French manner. Frankly, I find Jeanne-Marie Darre
much more interesting muscially speaking. They share a "niftiness" of
technique, however.

I would say that we should look forward to this latest release in
Original Masters as this is apparently its "last hurrah", at least in
the current configuration. DG and Decca/Philips may, in the future,
move to one and two-cd releases. But that, of course, will not be the
same at all. I am unaware of a parallel Decca/Philips in the series for
the month of June. Perhaps they will do something?

Of the pianists you mention, only Foldes and Aeschbacher hold interest
for me. I seem to be one of Foldes' few admirers. EMI could also put
together a nice box of his dozen or so recordings for that label. And
then there are his Vox recordings.

TD
Alan Cooper
2006-05-23 15:50:31 UTC
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Of the pianists you mention, only Foldes and Aeschbacher hold interest
for me. I seem to be one of Foldes' few admirers.
Me too, although my knowledge of his work is much more limited than
yours. Of course I know his work with Szigeti. I also have his
excellent Kodaly collection on US Decca LP, and I've long been an
admirer of his Schubert D959, which was briefly available on EMI CD
c/w a less compelling D960. Perhaps best of all is a lovely Mozart
collection that I have on a German EMI LP. It was recommended to me
by the old connoisseur who ran Chambers Records in Lower Manhattan, a
store specializing in expensive classical imports that I frequented in
the late '60s-early '70s. I did buy that Foldes record, and have
never regretted it.

What else would you recommend if it were available?

AC
Paul Goldstein
2006-05-23 22:29:20 UTC
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Post by Alan Cooper
Post by tomdeacon
Of the pianists you mention, only Foldes and Aeschbacher hold interest
for me. I seem to be one of Foldes' few admirers.
Me too, although my knowledge of his work is much more limited than
yours. Of course I know his work with Szigeti. I also have his
excellent Kodaly collection on US Decca LP, and I've long been an
admirer of his Schubert D959, which was briefly available on EMI CD
c/w a less compelling D960. Perhaps best of all is a lovely Mozart
collection that I have on a German EMI LP. It was recommended to me
by the old connoisseur who ran Chambers Records in Lower Manhattan, a
store specializing in expensive classical imports that I frequented in
the late '60s-early '70s. I did buy that Foldes record, and have
never regretted it.
What else would you recommend if it were available?
Our friend Rofke posted a fine LP of Foldes doing the Liszt concerti accompanied
by L. Ludwig.
tomdeacon
2006-05-23 23:02:31 UTC
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Post by Alan Cooper
Post by tomdeacon
Of the pianists you mention, only Foldes and Aeschbacher hold interest
for me. I seem to be one of Foldes' few admirers.
Me too, although my knowledge of his work is much more limited than
yours. Of course I know his work with Szigeti. I also have his
excellent Kodaly collection on US Decca LP, and I've long been an
admirer of his Schubert D959, which was briefly available on EMI CD
c/w a less compelling D960. Perhaps best of all is a lovely Mozart
collection that I have on a German EMI LP. It was recommended to me
by the old connoisseur who ran Chambers Records in Lower Manhattan, a
store specializing in expensive classical imports that I frequented in
the late '60s-early '70s. I did buy that Foldes record, and have
never regretted it.
What else would you recommend if it were available?
Our friend Rofke posted a fine LP of Foldes doing the Liszt concerti accompanied
by L. Ludwig.
That item went the rounds of budget DG LPs over the years. You will
find it on Heliodor.

TD
tomdeacon
2006-05-23 23:01:31 UTC
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Post by Alan Cooper
Post by tomdeacon
Of the pianists you mention, only Foldes and Aeschbacher hold interest
for me. I seem to be one of Foldes' few admirers.
Me too, although my knowledge of his work is much more limited than
yours. Of course I know his work with Szigeti. I also have his
excellent Kodaly collection on US Decca LP, and I've long been an
admirer of his Schubert D959, which was briefly available on EMI CD
c/w a less compelling D960. Perhaps best of all is a lovely Mozart
collection that I have on a German EMI LP. It was recommended to me
by the old connoisseur who ran Chambers Records in Lower Manhattan, a
store specializing in expensive classical imports that I frequented in
the late '60s-early '70s. I did buy that Foldes record, and have
never regretted it.
What else would you recommend if it were available?
His Bartok. His Beethoven. His Rachmaninoff 2. His Liszt. Goodness,
there are oceans of Foldes recordings in the archives of DG, Vox, and
EMI. I must own at least a dozen EMI recordings, for example.

Do a www.froogle.com search and see what's out there. I think you'll be
amazed.

TD
Matthew B. Tepper
2006-05-23 14:35:45 UTC
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Post by Miguel Montfort
I’m absolutely looking forward tho this!
Now, if only DG could be talked into releasing
complete sets of von Karolyi, Roloff, Foldes &
Aeschbacher, too...
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
--
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My personal home page -- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/index.html
My main music page --- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/berlioz.html
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I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made. ~ FDR (attrib.)
Alan Cooper
2006-05-23 15:44:02 UTC
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 14:35:45 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
I’m absolutely looking forward tho this!
Now, if only DG could be talked into releasing
complete sets of von Karolyi, Roloff, Foldes &
Aeschbacher, too...
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD. (Their great Debussy collection is a terrific
bargain on Australian Eloquence.) If only Universal could combine the
DG recordings with the ones the ensemble made for Nonesuch, RCA, and
Arabesque. Then you'd have something! (Of course I realize that they
can't do that.) My first candidate for reissue would be the splendid
recording of the Schubert op. 99 Piano Trio (Frank/Silverstein/Eskin),
but that was on RCA. Speaking of great and neglected chamber
ensembles, a few weeks ago I acquired Pierre Paquin's issue of an old
Columbia recital performed by the Philadelphia Wind Quintet. Fabulous
playing, and a nice transfer, too.

AC
Matthew B. Tepper
2006-05-23 15:57:08 UTC
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Post by Alan Cooper
On Tue, 23 May 2006 14:35:45 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
I'm absolutely looking forward to this! Now, if only DG could be
talked into releasing complete sets of von Karolyi, Roloff, Foldes &
Aeschbacher, too...
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD.
The Septet. But also a certain other work, with the participation of three
actors, which was on an LP all by itself.
--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
My personal home page -- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/index.html
My main music page --- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/berlioz.html
To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made. ~ FDR (attrib.)
Alan Cooper
2006-05-23 17:15:37 UTC
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:57:08 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Post by Alan Cooper
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD.
The Septet. But also a certain other work, with the participation of three
actors, which was on an LP all by itself.
Right, I forgot that one. The truth is that on record, at least, I
prefer the suite anyway. Live performance is another matter.

AC
Matthew B. Tepper
2006-05-23 19:10:29 UTC
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:57:08 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Post by Alan Cooper
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD.
The Septet. But also a certain other work, with the participation of
three actors, which was on an LP all by itself.
Right, I forgot that one. The truth is that on record, at least, I
prefer the suite anyway. Live performance is another matter.
And given a choice between seeing a live performance, and participating in
one (which I have done), I prefer the latter. Sometimes you gotta settle.
--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
My personal home page -- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/index.html
My main music page --- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/berlioz.html
To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made. ~ FDR (attrib.)
A. Brain
2006-05-24 09:09:54 UTC
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Post by Alan Cooper
On Tue, 23 May 2006 14:35:45 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD.
[snip]

I don' think DGG has even re-released all the recordings
they had of Bernstein (from his late career with them),
which puts DGG in bad company indeed.
--
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Steven de Mena
2006-05-24 09:47:34 UTC
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Post by Alan Cooper
On Tue, 23 May 2006 14:35:45 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD.
[snip]
I don' think DGG has even re-released all the recordings
they had of Bernstein (from his late career with them),
which puts DGG in bad company indeed.
--
A. Brain
Hindemith "Mathis der Maler" / "Symphonic Metamorphosis...." with the Israel
Philharmonic comes to mind.

Steve
tomdeacon
2006-05-24 12:44:01 UTC
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Post by A. Brain
Post by Alan Cooper
On Tue, 23 May 2006 14:35:45 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD.
[snip]
I don' think DGG has even re-released all the recordings
they had of Bernstein (from his late career with them),
which puts DGG in bad company indeed.
--
A. Brain
Hindemith "Mathis der Maler" / "Symphonic Metamorphosis...." with the Israel
Philharmonic comes to mind.
Any sales projections on that toe-tapper, Steve?

TD
Steven de Mena
2006-05-24 22:01:28 UTC
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Post by Alan Cooper
On Tue, 23 May 2006 14:35:45 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD.
[snip]
I don' think DGG has even re-released all the recordings
they had of Bernstein (from his late career with them),
which puts DGG in bad company indeed.
--
A. Brain
Hindemith "Mathis der Maler" / "Symphonic Metamorphosis...." with the Israel
Philharmonic comes to mind.
Any sales projections on that toe-tapper, Steve?
TD
Hmmm...if they released it in the "Originals" series, with its real or
imaginary digital remastering, and add a filler (maybe Stravinsky Firebird
or Pulcinella Suite with the IPO?) it would probably sell a few thousand.
3-5 thousand?

Steve
tomdeacon
2006-05-24 22:57:43 UTC
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Hindemith "Mathis der Maler" / "Symphonic Metamorphosis...." with the Israel
Philharmonic comes to mind.
Any sales projections on that toe-tapper, Steve?
TD
Hmmm...if they released it in the "Originals" series, with its real or
imaginary digital remastering, and add a filler (maybe Stravinsky Firebird
or Pulcinella Suite with the IPO?) it would probably sell a few thousand.
3-5 thousand?
The profits from which, after DG had paid the Hindemith copyrights and
any Stravinsky ones still in force, would be zero. Another money-loser,
Steve.

Mind you, they're losing fistfulls of cash with each and every Boulez
item they issue, not to speak of the money Philips has lost on Gergiev
over the years. It goes on and on and on and on.

A recent prediction is that the house of cards will come tumbling down
in a year and a half. Perhaps. But I am not sure things will last that
long.

Mind you, Lebrecht has been predicting the same for years and the
majors are still holding on. By their fingernails, I assume.

I suggest that you count your blessings for now and enjoy what comes.

TD
Steven de Mena
2006-05-24 23:12:05 UTC
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Post by tomdeacon
Post by Steven de Mena
Hindemith "Mathis der Maler" / "Symphonic Metamorphosis...." with the Israel
Philharmonic comes to mind.
Any sales projections on that toe-tapper, Steve?
TD
Hmmm...if they released it in the "Originals" series, with its real or
imaginary digital remastering, and add a filler (maybe Stravinsky Firebird
or Pulcinella Suite with the IPO?) it would probably sell a few thousand.
3-5 thousand?
The profits from which, after DG had paid the Hindemith copyrights and
any Stravinsky ones still in force, would be zero. Another money-loser,
Steve.
Mind you, they're losing fistfulls of cash with each and every Boulez
item they issue, not to speak of the money Philips has lost on Gergiev
over the years. It goes on and on and on and on.
A recent prediction is that the house of cards will come tumbling down
in a year and a half. Perhaps. But I am not sure things will last that
long.
Mind you, Lebrecht has been predicting the same for years and the
majors are still holding on. By their fingernails, I assume.
I suggest that you count your blessings for now and enjoy what comes.
TD
I am enjoying what is here now. I have probably bought more CDs in the last
year than in the previous 10 years, as I am just not sure how long anything
will be available. So much went out of print that I held off on buying...

Steve
Matthew B. Tepper
2006-05-24 23:38:27 UTC
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Hmmm...if they released it in the "Originals" series, with its real or
imaginary digital remastering, and add a filler (maybe Stravinsky
Firebird or Pulcinella Suite with the IPO?) it would probably sell a few
thousand. 3-5 thousand?
Naw, to do that Kwis Woberts would have to pass on a reissue of some
obscure jazz album that he likes better, and which would sell fewer copies.
Too bad!
--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
My personal home page -- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/index.html
My main music page --- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/berlioz.html
To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made. ~ FDR (attrib.)
Matthew B. Tepper
2006-05-24 14:36:14 UTC
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Post by Steven de Mena
Post by A. Brain
Post by Alan Cooper
On Tue, 23 May 2006 14:35:45 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
Post by Matthew B. Tepper
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
I think that everything that they recorded for DG already has been
reissued except for one work by Stravinsky that wouldn't fit on the
Strauss/Stravinsky CD.
[snip]
I don' think DGG has even re-released all the recordings
they had of Bernstein (from his late career with them),
which puts DGG in bad company indeed.
Hindemith "Mathis der Maler" / "Symphonic Metamorphosis...." with the
Israel Philharmonic comes to mind.
Also that all-Beethoven Amnesty International concert with Arrau.
--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
My personal home page -- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/index.html
My main music page --- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/berlioz.html
To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made. ~ FDR (attrib.)
tomdeacon
2006-05-24 20:00:00 UTC
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Post by Steven de Mena
Post by A. Brain
I don' think DGG has even re-released all the recordings
they had of Bernstein (from his late career with them),
which puts DGG in bad company indeed.
Hindemith "Mathis der Maler" / "Symphonic Metamorphosis...." with the
Israel Philharmonic comes to mind.
Also that all-Beethoven Amnesty International concert with Arrau.
I wonder how many times Tepper has to be reminded that Polygram -
Universal now - doesn't OWN that recording. It belongs to Amnesty
International.

Perhaps he can join Amnesty and but a bee in their bonnet. That'll make
him some friends in the commune.

TD
Brendan R. Wehrung
2006-05-24 07:31:01 UTC
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Post by Miguel Montfort
I’m absolutely looking forward tho this!
Now, if only DG could be talked into releasing
complete sets of von Karolyi, Roloff, Foldes &
Aeschbacher, too...
Boston Symphony Chamber Players....
...Matthew said plaintively.

Brendan
unknown
2006-05-26 07:31:12 UTC
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Post by Miguel Montfort
---------------------------------------------------
Monique Haas - Complete Recordings on DG
477 620-1 (8CDs)
* Monique Haas was one of DG's principal pianists
in the 1950s. Her play is marked by its elegance,
passion and wonderful articulation. Here, for the
first time, we present the complete recorded lega-
cy of this great artist on CD
* This is a wide-ranging box - from Haydn and Mozart
to Bartók and Mihalovici (Haas's Rumanian husband)
* Featured artists include conductors Eugen Jochum
and Ferdinand Leitner, but above all violinist
Max Rostal, who gives a marvellous account of
the Ravel Sonata, along with Marcel Mihalovici's
Second Violin Sonata>
* Other highlights include Mozart piano duet and
two-piano works with Heinz Schroter - brilliantly
virtuosic and a wonderful partnership; the award-
winning recording of the Debussy Etudes, which
has come up excellently in its first CD transfer
* Rarities include test recordings for DG from
1949 - individual pieces by Debussy
----------------------------------------------------
I?m absolutely looking forward tho this!
Now, if only DG could be talked into releasing
complete sets of von Karolyi, Roloff, Foldes &
Aeschbacher, too...
It is interesting to learn that Haas was hooked up with Mihalovici, who
was a very fine composer who is ridiculously under-represented in
recordings. Good to see that some of his music will be in the set -
seems like there should be some of his solo piano music such as the
impressive sonata, but I guess not.

wr

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