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Lawrence Chalmers
2020-05-03 21:43:10 UTC
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Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
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2020-05-03 23:48:01 UTC
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I do not know STEREO ver.

And "Pierre Monteux - The Complete RCA Stereo Recordings"

https://www.amazon.com/Pierre-Monteux-Complete-Recordings-Classical/dp/B079JPP1HV/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Pierre+Monteux+-+The+Complete+RCA+Stereo+Recordings&qid=1588549534&s=music&sr=1-2

do not include Debussy Nocturnes.
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2020-05-04 00:11:26 UTC
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Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
Didn't it subsequently come out in stereo on the VICTROLA label?:

https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
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2020-05-04 03:45:27 UTC
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Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
After that, it came out on the Quintessence label:

https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
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2020-05-04 06:08:15 UTC
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Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my
imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
The disc label for the La Mer side says "electronically enhanced
for stereo". Side 2 just says "stereo", but it could be just fake
stereo as well.
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2020-05-04 10:11:30 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my
imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
The disc label for the La Mer side says "electronically enhanced
for stereo". Side 2 just says "stereo", but it could be just fake
stereo as well.
I had that lp and the NOCTURNES are in true stereo. "Electronically enhanced for stereo" only applies to LA MER because it was originally a mono recording.
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2020-05-04 11:27:41 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my
imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
The disc label for the La Mer side says "electronically enhanced
for stereo". Side 2 just says "stereo", but it could be just fake
stereo as well.
I had that lp and the NOCTURNES are in true stereo. "Electronically enhanced for stereo" only applies to LA MER because it was originally a mono recording.
To hear a stereo excerpt of La Mer: From Dawn Till Noon On The Sea - Boston SO/Pierre Monteux, check out the cd The Age of Living Stereo: A Tribute to John Pfeiffer.
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2020-05-04 12:15:45 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my
imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
The disc label for the La Mer side says "electronically enhanced
for stereo". Side 2 just says "stereo", but it could be just fake
stereo as well.
I had that lp and the NOCTURNES are in true stereo. "Electronically enhanced for stereo" only applies to LA MER because it was originally a mono recording.
To hear a stereo excerpt of La Mer: From Dawn Till Noon On The Sea - Boston SO/Pierre Monteux, check out the cd The Age of Living Stereo: A Tribute to John Pfeiffer.
Read this and weep:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=%22the+stereo+tapes+of+La+mer+had+been+misplaced+by+RCA+and+could+not+be+found%21%22
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2020-05-04 21:56:24 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my
imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
The disc label for the La Mer side says "electronically enhanced
for stereo". Side 2 just says "stereo", but it could be just fake
stereo as well.
I had that lp and the NOCTURNES are in true stereo. "Electronically
enhanced for stereo" only applies to LA MER because it was originally a
mono recording.
So the Nocturnes were improperly excluded from
the 8 CD Complete RCA Stereo Recordings of Monteux.

The Rachmaninoff Corelli Variations are also
missing from the Andre Watts box set.
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2020-05-04 22:09:49 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my
imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
The disc label for the La Mer side says "electronically enhanced
for stereo". Side 2 just says "stereo", but it could be just fake
stereo as well.
I had that lp and the NOCTURNES are in true stereo. "Electronically
enhanced for stereo" only applies to LA MER because it was originally a
mono recording.
So the Nocturnes were improperly excluded from
the 8 CD Complete RCA Stereo Recordings of Monteux...
According to an Amazon customer:

- Reviewer Kelley is concerned that not all of Monteux's "RCA recordings" are included in this collection. Perhaps I can clarify: Monteux's European recordings recordings were almost entirely made by other companies and merely pressed and released in the U. S. by RCA. The early 50s Massenet Manon was recorded by HMV/EMI, the Elgar and Brahms variations, the Tchaikovsky Sleeping Beauty, the Vienna Berlioz and Brahms 2nd, and the Paris Rite of Spring, Petrouchka and Firebird by Decca/London. All of these items have been reissued, usually in bargain-priced issues, by the companies that recorded them.

If the master tapes of Monteux's stereo LA MER could have been 'misplaced', then, as far as I am concerned, RCA's motto must only be:

- Working for RCA means never having to say you're sorry.
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2020-05-04 22:25:07 UTC
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Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my
imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
The disc label for the La Mer side says "electronically enhanced
for stereo". Side 2 just says "stereo", but it could be just fake
stereo as well.
I had that lp and the NOCTURNES are in true stereo. "Electronically
enhanced for stereo" only applies to LA MER because it was originally a
mono recording.
So the Nocturnes were improperly excluded from
the 8 CD Complete RCA Stereo Recordings of Monteux...
- Reviewer Kelley is concerned that not all of Monteux's "RCA recordings" are included in this collection. Perhaps I can clarify: Monteux's European recordings recordings were almost entirely made by other companies and merely pressed and released in the U. S. by RCA. The early 50s Massenet Manon was recorded by HMV/EMI, the Elgar and Brahms variations, the Tchaikovsky Sleeping Beauty, the Vienna Berlioz and Brahms 2nd, and the Paris Rite of Spring, Petrouchka and Firebird by Decca/London. All of these items have been reissued, usually in bargain-priced issues, by the companies that recorded them.
- Working for RCA means never having to say you're sorry.
According to this:

- Well…they tried. This bare-bones box is inexplicably missing the 1954 Debussy Nocturnes, recorded in excellent early stereo and which is a matter of no small frustration for any of us who missed the truly complete Monteux set from RCA a few years ago. You can still find the Nocturnes on the conductor's all-Debussy program from the long-unavailable Pierre Monteux Edition, because at time of writing ArkivMusic is dumping their CD-R reprints all over Amazon like candy. I can't speak to whether that's a sonic downgrade from the Monteux big box, nor do I know if this present set sounds any different from the bigger box. Sony/RCA didn't exactly win any prizes here.

http://www.classical.net/music/recs/reviews/r/rca16342a.php
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2020-05-05 08:06:53 UTC
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I had that lp and the NOCTURNES are in true stereo.
I confirm...Recorded on august 25th, 1955 (on of the first stereo
recordings by RCA ?)...
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2020-11-10 04:16:00 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my
imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
https://www.discogs.com/Stravinsky-Debussy-Monteux-conducting-Paris-Conservatoire-Orchestra-Boston-Symphony-Firebird-Nocturn/release/13504187
https://www.discogs.com/es/Debussy-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-Pierre-Monteux-La-Mer-Nocturnes/release/5406844
The disc label for the La Mer side says "electronically enhanced
for stereo". Side 2 just says "stereo", but it could be just fake
stereo as well.
I had that lp and the NOCTURNES are in true stereo. "Electronically enhanced for stereo" only applies to LA MER because it was originally a mono recording.
Monteux's BSO "Nocturnes" and Gould's "Scheherezade" have a parallel history in that Gould's recording also first appeared in mono as an LM lp. It subsequently reappeared in stereo as a Victrola lp. Then that Victrola recording was reissued on the Quintessence Critics Choice label:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1093&bih=526&ei=DxOqX-2qDeKKlwS5hL74Bw&q=gould+scheherezade+quintessence+lp&oq=gould+scheherezade+quintessence+lp&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoCCAA6BQgAELEDOgQIABAeOgYIABAFEB5Q7SJY8nBg03NoAXAAeACAAdkCiAG-PJIBCDAuMi4zMS4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ved=0ahUKEwit7suKjvfsAhVixYUKHTmCD38Q4dUDCAc&uact=5

Q.C.C. also reissued the Scheherezade of Svetlanov:

https://www.google.com/search?q=svetlanov+scheherezade+quintessence+lp&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjArISUjvfsAhUKNuwKHYnPAs0Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=svetlanov+scheherezade+quintessence+lp&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1CAtwhYhdIIYODTCGgAcAB4AIAB8QGIAcEVkgEGMC4xLjEymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=IxOqX4CPAYrssAeJn4voDA&bih=526&biw=1093#imgrc=iJcjPdgghJX2HM
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2020-05-07 11:06:06 UTC
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Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
To listen to a Youtube upload that has over a million views and close to 300 comments:

Claude Debussy - Nocturnes
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2020-05-07 11:40:40 UTC
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Was the Monteux/Boston recording of 1955 recorded in stereo? It was my imprint recording on a mono lp coupled with La Mer.
Claude Debussy - Nocturnes
And for those who think that images have nothing to do with the appeal of a piece of music, the following has over a million views and over 400 comments even though most of the images (e.g., fishes) have nothing to do with the music:

Sirenes. Claude Debussy
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