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Beethoven Complete New Edition on Deutsche Grammophon
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John Fowler
2019-08-31 20:42:34 UTC
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from Deutsche Grammophon's website.
If anyone finds a more detailed listing, please post a link.

-- 101 CDs of Beethoven's music (the old DG Beethoven Edition had 81 CDs)
-- 17 bonus CDs with duplicate repertoire in historical recordings (the old DG Beethoven Edition had 6 CDs of historical recordings)
-- 3 bonus Blu-Ray Audio discs with duplicate repertoire: Complete Symphonies (Karajan-1962), Piano Sonatas (Kempff) and String Quartets (Amadeus)
-- 2 bonus DVDs with duplicate repertoire: Fidelio (Bernstein) and Symphonies 4 & 7 (Carlos Kleiber)

Vol.1: ORCHESTRAL MUSIC (23 CDs + 1 Blu-Ray Audio + 1 DVD)
--- Symphonies & Overtures with eleven conductors: Abbado, Bernstein, Böhm, Chailly, Gardiner, Giulini, Karajan, Kleiber, Monteux, Nelsons, Szell
--- second recording of Complete Symphonies on BLU-RAY AUDIO: Karajan, Berlin Phil (1962)
--- third recording of Symphonies 4 & 7 on DVD: Carlos Kleiber, Amsterdam Concertgebouw
--- Concerti: Argerich, Barenboim, Brendel, Buchbinder, Gulda, Kempff, Pollini. Zimerman (eight pianists), Mutter, Repin (+ additional unnamed performers)

Vol.2: MUSIC FOR THE STAGE (8 CDs + 1 DVD)
--- Ballet Music, Incidental Music, Dances & Marches: Abbado, Chung, Karajan, Maazel, Marriner
--- Fidelio (Abbado), Leonore (Gardiner)
--- second recording of Fidelio on DVD - Bernstein, Vienna State Opera

Vol.3: KEYBOARD MUSIC (20 CDs + 1 Blu-ray Audio)
Performed by 19 pianists: Arrau, Ashkenazy, Brendel, Cascioli, Curzon, de Larrocha, Freire, Gilels, Grimaud, Gulda, Kissin, Kocsis, Kovacevich, Lang Lang, Lupu, Perahia, Pletnev, Pollini, Uchida
--- second recording of Complete Piano Sonatas on BLU-RAY AUDIO - Kempff (1964-65)

Vol.4: CHAMBER MUSIC (30 CDs + 1 Blu-ray Audio)
--- String Quartets: Emerson String Quartet, Hagen Quartett, Takacs Quartet
--- second recording of Complete String Quartets on BLU-RAY AUDIO - Amadeus Quartet (1959-63)
--- Violin Sonatas performed by five violinists: Dumay, Kremer, Menuhin, Mutter, Perlman
--- Cello Sonatas: Maisky
--- Flute & Other Duos: Gallois, Hagen Quartett, Tuckwell
--- Piano Trios: Beaux Arts Trio, Mullova/Schiff/Previn Trio, Szeryng/Kempff/Fournier Trio
--- String Trios: Mutter/Giuranna/Rostropovich Trio
--- Chamber Music for more than four instruments: Amadeus Quartet etc.

Vol.5: LIEDER & PARTSONGS (4 CDs) Fischer-Dieskau, Schreier, Stolte

Vol.6: FOLKSONG SETTINGS (7 CDs) Martineau

Vol.7: VOCAL WORKS WITH ORCHESTRA (6 CDs)
--- Vocal Works with Orchestra: Abbado, Tilson Thomas
--- Masses, Cantatas: Chung, Gardiner, Karajan, Thielemann
--- Christus am Ölberge: Klee

Vol.8: WORLD PREMIERES & RARITIES (3 CDs) Goerne, Hope, Koch

Vol.9: BONUS - HISTORICAL RECORDINGS (17 CDs)
Busch, Fricsay, Furtwängler, Jochum, E.Kleiber, Klemperer, Nikisch, Scherchen, R.Strauss, Backhaus, Fournier, Haskil, Levin, Michelangeli, Pogorelich, S.Richter, Schnabel, Serkin, Busch Quartet, Lindsay Quartet, Quartetto Italiano, Bartoli, Nilsson, Pavarotti, Vickers, von Otter
Oscar
2019-09-01 19:15:16 UTC
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So, if I'm not mistaken, new DG recordings issued separately and concurrently by Nelsons (Symphonies w/ VPO) and Lisiecki (Concerti w/ ASMF) are _not_ included in the big box? That's how it appears from this not-tracklisted description.
John Fowler
2019-09-14 19:43:34 UTC
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BREAKING NEWS
from DG’s website: “Nine softcover books with track listings, notes and sung texts (English/Deutsch). YES!

If the Warner box is like their Berlioz and DG boxes, it will not come with texts or translations.
--- One photo of the Naxos box shows what looks like a CD-ROM in a separate sleeve.
If these are texts for the vocal works, I hope Naxos remembered the English translations.
Nothing dumber than providing the text only in the language that’s being sung - unless you are addicted to Karaoke.
--- Also, a new video:
https://www.facebook.com/deutschegrammophon/videos/489641671619693/?v=489641671619693
John Fowler
2019-09-14 20:02:03 UTC
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Correction:
If the Warner box is like their Berlioz and Debussy boxes, it will not come with texts or translations.
Not a Dentist
2019-09-14 20:32:06 UTC
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Considering the wealth of materials which ARE included in the DG set, I lament the fact that NOTHING from the altogether quite distinguished Marriner/ASMF symphony cycle on Philips is to be found. All of theses recordings (except for Sym 4 and the Grosse Fuge) can be accessed on Amazon Music and on the Naxos Music Service (where even the 4 + GF disc is to be found).
John Fowler
2019-09-16 12:53:32 UTC
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FIRST DISAPPOINTMENT:
Beethoven composed two versions of Leonore (1805 and 1806).

The Warner box contains only the 1805 version - in Blomstedt's excellent recording: https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Leonore-Original-Version-Fidelio/dp/B0000035N6/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=beethoven+leonore&qid=1568637654&s=music&sr=1-2
(the original Berlin Classics release has the text and translation).

The Naxos box contains only the 1805 version - performers not yet announced

The DG box contains only Gardiner's misguided hybrid of 1805 and 1806. This is inexcusable in a scholarly edition - like Deutsche Grammophon claims their box is.

Beethoven's 1806 version has only been recorded once - by Soustrot on the "other" DG: Dabringhaus und Grimm
https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Leonore-version-Ludwig-van/dp/B00000G4MW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=beethoven+leonore&qid=1568638057&s=music&sr=1-1
(this has the text and translation).
r***@gmail.com
2019-09-17 19:31:11 UTC
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FIRST DISAPPOINTMENT:
Beethoven composed two versions of Leonore (1805 and 1806).

On Szell's recording of the Leonore overtures, included was LvBs 'final' version, named Leonore No.3, which was finished in 1814. So this edition really lacks two Leonores.

Ray Hall, Taree
Frank Berger
2019-09-17 21:26:31 UTC
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Post by John Fowler
Beethoven composed two versions of Leonore (1805 and 1806).
On Szell's recording of the Leonore overtures, included was LvBs 'final' version, named Leonore No.3, which was finished in 1814. So this edition really lacks two Leonores.
Ray Hall, Taree
Can someone explain to me why the Leonore Overture #3 is pretty often
labeled op. 72b, when I think it is properly 72a?
Gerard
2019-09-17 21:29:15 UTC
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Post by John Fowler
Beethoven composed two versions of Leonore (1805 and 1806).
On Szell's recording of the Leonore overtures, included was LvBs 'final' version, named Leonore No.3, which was finished in 1814. So this edition really lacks two Leonores.
Ray Hall, Taree
I think that John was talking about 2 OPERA's (2 versions) with the name 'Leonore'.
Not about the overtures.
John Fowler
2019-09-18 10:42:49 UTC
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1805 = Leonore, Opera Op.72a in 3 acts, opened with Leonore Overture No.2
1806 = Leonore, Opera Op.72b in 2 acts, opened with Leonore Overture No.3
1807 = Leonore, Opera, planned revival cancelled, but Beethoven composed Leonore Overture No. 1 (someone goofed on numbering the overtures)

1814 = Fidelio, Opera Op.72 in 2 acts, with a new overture.
Frank Berger
2019-09-18 12:43:38 UTC
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Post by John Fowler
1805 = Leonore, Opera Op.72a in 3 acts, opened with Leonore Overture No.2
1806 = Leonore, Opera Op.72b in 2 acts, opened with Leonore Overture No.3
1807 = Leonore, Opera, planned revival cancelled, but Beethoven composed Leonore Overture No. 1 (someone goofed on numbering the overtures)
1814 = Fidelio, Opera Op.72 in 2 acts, with a new overture.
I'm still confused. Your description certainly makes sense.

And yet there are many recordings of the "Leonore Overture No. 3" that
are labeled op. 72a. The Arkiv catalog lists all of them that way. Is
your description a modern revision? Who introduced it? In real time,
all performances of Leonore and Fidelio were simply called op. 72, correct?

An example (one of many):

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=leonore+op.+72a

Perhaps recordings of the overtures only shouldn't even have an opus no.
at all.
John Fowler
2019-09-18 18:49:51 UTC
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Post by Frank Berger
I'm still confused. Your description certainly makes sense.
And yet there are many recordings of the "Leonore Overture No. 3" that
are labeled op. 72a. The Arkiv catalog lists all of them that way. Is
your description a modern revision? Who introduced it? In real time,
all performances of Leonore and Fidelio were simply called op. 72, correct?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=leonore+op.+72a
Perhaps recordings of the overtures only shouldn't even have an opus no.
at all.
My understanding is that only the opera Fidelio (1814) was published during Beethoven's lifetime (as Op.72).
Two early versions of this opera: Leonore (version one, 1805) and Leonore (version two, 1806) were performed in Beethoven's lifetime, but published posthumously.
Rather than give them misleadingly high opus numbers, scholars identified them as Op.72a (1805) and Op.72b (1806).

The Leonore Overture No.2 would more accurately be "Overture to the first version of Leonore Op.72a" or even "Leonore Overture No.1"
The Leonore Overture No.3 would more accurately be "Overture to the second version of Leonore Op.72b" or even "Leonore Overture No.2"

The "Leonore Overture No.1" (composed 1807 but not performed in Beethoven's lifetime) actually was published posthumously - and it was given a misleadingly high opus number (Op.138).
It certainly wasn't the first overture composed (Op.138 is Beethoven's final opus number).
It would more accurately be "Overture to a never completed (presumed lost) third version of Leonore (1807)" or even "Leonore Overture No.3"

But Beethoven scholars blew it in the Nineteenth Century and no one had the nerve to correct them (except me).
Frank Berger
2019-09-18 19:03:06 UTC
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Post by Frank Berger
I'm still confused. Your description certainly makes sense.
And yet there are many recordings of the "Leonore Overture No. 3" that
are labeled op. 72a. The Arkiv catalog lists all of them that way. Is
your description a modern revision? Who introduced it? In real time,
all performances of Leonore and Fidelio were simply called op. 72, correct?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=leonore+op.+72a
Perhaps recordings of the overtures only shouldn't even have an opus no.
at all.
My understanding is that only the opera Fidelio (1814) was published during Beethoven's lifetime (as Op.72).
Two early versions of this opera: Leonore (version one, 1805) and Leonore (version two, 1806) were performed in Beethoven's lifetime, but published posthumously.
Rather than give them misleadingly high opus numbers, scholars identified them as Op.72a (1805) and Op.72b (1806).
The Leonore Overture No.2 would more accurately be "Overture to the first version of Leonore Op.72a" or even "Leonore Overture No.1"
The Leonore Overture No.3 would more accurately be "Overture to the second version of Leonore Op.72b" or even "Leonore Overture No.2"
The "Leonore Overture No.1" (composed 1807 but not performed in Beethoven's lifetime) actually was published posthumously - and it was given a misleadingly high opus number (Op.138).
It certainly wasn't the first overture composed (Op.138 is Beethoven's final opus number).
It would more accurately be "Overture to a never completed (presumed lost) third version of Leonore (1807)" or even "Leonore Overture No.3"
But Beethoven scholars blew it in the Nineteenth Century and no one had the nerve to correct them (except me).
You're not the only one who uses 72a and 72b as you do. But it's the
vast minority. I still wonder who first introduced 72b as describing
Leonore #3, or for that matter how it came to be 72a in the first place.
Mark Zimmer
2019-09-23 17:42:01 UTC
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Post by Frank Berger
I'm still confused. Your description certainly makes sense.
And yet there are many recordings of the "Leonore Overture No. 3" that
are labeled op. 72a. The Arkiv catalog lists all of them that way. Is
your description a modern revision? Who introduced it? In real time,
all performances of Leonore and Fidelio were simply called op. 72, correct?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=leonore+op.+72a
Perhaps recordings of the overtures only shouldn't even have an opus no.
at all.
My understanding is that only the opera Fidelio (1814) was published during Beethoven's lifetime (as Op.72).
Two early versions of this opera: Leonore (version one, 1805) and Leonore (version two, 1806) were performed in Beethoven's lifetime, but published posthumously.
Rather than give them misleadingly high opus numbers, scholars identified them as Op.72a (1805) and Op.72b (1806).
The Leonore Overture No.2 would more accurately be "Overture to the first version of Leonore Op.72a" or even "Leonore Overture No.1"
The Leonore Overture No.3 would more accurately be "Overture to the second version of Leonore Op.72b" or even "Leonore Overture No.2"
The "Leonore Overture No.1" (composed 1807 but not performed in Beethoven's lifetime) actually was published posthumously - and it was given a misleadingly high opus number (Op.138).
It certainly wasn't the first overture composed (Op.138 is Beethoven's final opus number).
It would more accurately be "Overture to a never completed (presumed lost) third version of Leonore (1807)" or even "Leonore Overture No.3"
But Beethoven scholars blew it in the Nineteenth Century and no one had the nerve to correct them (except me).
You're not the only one who uses 72a and 72b as you do. But it's the
vast minority. I still wonder who first introduced 72b as describing
Leonore #3, or for that matter how it came to be 72a in the first place.
I think it was a modern allocation, possibly done by record companies; Beethoven treated them all as op.72. I will have to check my copies of Kinsky-Halm I and II to see whether they used those numbers in their catalogue.
hustlefan
2019-09-02 02:53:42 UTC
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Post by John Fowler
from Deutsche Grammophon's website.
If anyone finds a more detailed listing, please post a link.
-- 101 CDs of Beethoven's music (the old DG Beethoven Edition had 81 CDs)
-- 17 bonus CDs with duplicate repertoire in historical recordings (the old DG Beethoven Edition had 6 CDs of historical recordings)
-- 3 bonus Blu-Ray Audio discs with duplicate repertoire: Complete Symphonies (Karajan-1962), Piano Sonatas (Kempff) and String Quartets (Amadeus)
-- 2 bonus DVDs with duplicate repertoire: Fidelio (Bernstein) and Symphonies 4 & 7 (Carlos Kleiber)
Vol.1: ORCHESTRAL MUSIC (23 CDs + 1 Blu-Ray Audio + 1 DVD)
--- Symphonies & Overtures with eleven conductors: Abbado, Bernstein, Böhm, Chailly, Gardiner, Giulini, Karajan, Kleiber, Monteux, Nelsons, Szell
--- second recording of Complete Symphonies on BLU-RAY AUDIO: Karajan, Berlin Phil (1962)
--- third recording of Symphonies 4 & 7 on DVD: Carlos Kleiber, Amsterdam Concertgebouw
--- Concerti: Argerich, Barenboim, Brendel, Buchbinder, Gulda, Kempff, Pollini. Zimerman (eight pianists), Mutter, Repin (+ additional unnamed performers)
Vol.2: MUSIC FOR THE STAGE (8 CDs + 1 DVD)
--- Ballet Music, Incidental Music, Dances & Marches: Abbado, Chung, Karajan, Maazel, Marriner
--- Fidelio (Abbado), Leonore (Gardiner)
--- second recording of Fidelio on DVD - Bernstein, Vienna State Opera
Vol.3: KEYBOARD MUSIC (20 CDs + 1 Blu-ray Audio)
Performed by 19 pianists: Arrau, Ashkenazy, Brendel, Cascioli, Curzon, de Larrocha, Freire, Gilels, Grimaud, Gulda, Kissin, Kocsis, Kovacevich, Lang Lang, Lupu, Perahia, Pletnev, Pollini, Uchida
--- second recording of Complete Piano Sonatas on BLU-RAY AUDIO - Kempff (1964-65)
Vol.4: CHAMBER MUSIC (30 CDs + 1 Blu-ray Audio)
--- String Quartets: Emerson String Quartet, Hagen Quartett, Takacs Quartet
--- second recording of Complete String Quartets on BLU-RAY AUDIO - Amadeus Quartet (1959-63)
--- Violin Sonatas performed by five violinists: Dumay, Kremer, Menuhin, Mutter, Perlman
--- Cello Sonatas: Maisky
--- Flute & Other Duos: Gallois, Hagen Quartett, Tuckwell
--- Piano Trios: Beaux Arts Trio, Mullova/Schiff/Previn Trio, Szeryng/Kempff/Fournier Trio
--- String Trios: Mutter/Giuranna/Rostropovich Trio
--- Chamber Music for more than four instruments: Amadeus Quartet etc.
Vol.5: LIEDER & PARTSONGS (4 CDs) Fischer-Dieskau, Schreier, Stolte
Vol.6: FOLKSONG SETTINGS (7 CDs) Martineau
Vol.7: VOCAL WORKS WITH ORCHESTRA (6 CDs)
--- Vocal Works with Orchestra: Abbado, Tilson Thomas
--- Masses, Cantatas: Chung, Gardiner, Karajan, Thielemann
--- Christus am Ölberge: Klee
Vol.8: WORLD PREMIERES & RARITIES (3 CDs) Goerne, Hope, Koch
Vol.9: BONUS - HISTORICAL RECORDINGS (17 CDs)
Busch, Fricsay, Furtwängler, Jochum, E.Kleiber, Klemperer, Nikisch, Scherchen, R.Strauss, Backhaus, Fournier, Haskil, Levin, Michelangeli, Pogorelich, S.Richter, Schnabel, Serkin, Busch Quartet, Lindsay Quartet, Quartetto Italiano, Bartoli, Nilsson, Pavarotti, Vickers, von Otter
HMV Japan has posted the detailed contents:

https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Beethoven-1770-1827_000000000034571/item_Beethoven-The-New-Complete-Edition-118CD-2DVD-3blu-ray-Audio-Limited_10112427
John Fowler
2019-09-02 12:32:29 UTC
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Post by hustlefan
https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Beethoven-1770-1827_000000000034571/item_Beethoven-The-New-Complete-Edition-118CD-2DVD-3blu-ray-Audio-Limited_10112427
Thanks Hustlefan,
As best as I can decipher it, these stereo recordings of Symphonies and independent Overtures (unattached to a larger work) are on CDs 1-15 + Blu-ray Audio + DVD:

Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Karajan (1976)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO
Symphonies 4,7 - Carlos Kleiber on DVD
Coriolan Overture - Chailly
Creatures of Prometheus Overture – Chailly
Egmont Overture & Incidental Music - Szell
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan
At least four recordings of every symphony - five of Symphonies 4 & 7 (two Ninth Symphonies from Karajan), and that's not counting the mono recordings.

Oscar: the new Nelsons/VPO recordings of Symphonies 7 & 8 are included.
John Fowler
2019-09-02 12:39:04 UTC
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Most interesting is Vol.8: WORLD PREMIERES & RARITIES (3 CDs)

[Vol.8] World's first recording & rare work (Disc99-101)
Disc99
1. Andante WoO.211
2. Anglaise WoO.212 (Hess61)
3. Bagatelle WoO.216 (Hess73)
4. Bagatelle WoO.216 (Hess74 )
5. Minuet WoO.217
6. Bagatelle Hess57
7. Small item (Kullak f.51 / 52)
8. Andante WoO.213-1
9. Finale WoO.213-2
10. Allegro WoO.213-3
11. Rondo WoO .213-4
12. Bagatelle WoO.59 “For Elise” (1822 edition)
13. Waltz WoO.219 (Hess68)
14. Study for Piano Hess58
15. Allegretto (Kafka f.47v)
16. Piano Pieces (Kafka f.160r)
17. Piano Pieces (Kafka f.41v)
18. Piano Pieces (Kafka f.47v, 5-8)
19. Piano Pieces Hess59
20. Adagio Ma Non Malt Hess70 (Chapter)
21. Malt Adagio Hess71 (break)
22. Theme and Variations Hess72
23. Two German Dances Hess67
24. Minuet-Rio WoO.209 (Hess88)
25. Piano Sonata "Fantasy Sonata" UnV12
26. "Give us Peace" Hess Anh. 57 (piano arrangement by Beethoven)
27. “Oh, Hope” (Theme of 4 bars for the Duke of Rudolph) WoO.200 (Hess75)
28. Wellington's Victory Op.91 (piano arrangement) Hess97
29. Last contemplation (Andante Maestoso) WoO.62
30. Symphony No.7 Op.92 Hess96 (piano arrangement by Beethoven)

Ronald Brautyham (Forte Piano) (1-6,29)
Tobias Koch (Forte Piano) (7-26,30)
Steven Beck (27, 28)
Recording: 2010 (1,3,4,6), 2014 (2,5), 2019 (7-26,30), 2000-2001 (27), 2002 (28), 2013 year (29)

Disc100
1. (arranger from Quintet for pipe music and piano) piano Quartet Op.16
2. and folk songs subject of 10 Kanade songs Op.107
3. last of melodic subject (Andante Maesutoso) WoO.62
4. String Quartet (Handel oratorio arrangement from the fugue of "Solomon" Overture) Hess36
5. Violin Sonata UnV11 (Hess46) (Fragments)
6. Duo for Violin and Cello UnV8 (Chapter)
7. Scherzo to String Trio Op.9-1
8. Allegretto for String Quartet WoO.210
9. Minuet Hess331 (Chapter)
10. String Quartet Palastrella for Hess332 (Chapter)
11. Minuet for String Quartet-Scherzo Hess333 (Chapter)
12. Allegro Hess334

Isaac Stern (Violin: 1), Jaime Laredo (Viola: 1)
Yoyo Ma (Cello: 1) , Emmanuel Ax (piano: 1)
Daniel Hope (violin: 2,5), Sebastian Kunauer (piano: 2,5)
Daniel Hope, Ikki Opitz (violin: 3)
Amihai Gross, Tatiana Maslenco ( Viola: 3)
Daniel Müller-Shot (cello: 3)
Lucas Hagen, Reiner Schmidt ( Violin: 4)
Veronica Hagen (Viola: 4), Clemens Hagen (Cello: 4)
Daniel Hope (Violin: 6), Daniel Muller Schott (Cello: 6)
Daniel Hope (Violin: 7), Amihai Gross (Viola: 7)
Daniel Muller-Shot (Cello: 7)
Enderion Quartet (8), Covington String Quartet (9-12)
Recording: 1992 (1), 2019 (2,3,5-7), 1997 (4), 2008 (8), 2006 (9-12)

Disc101
1. 2-voice fugue Hess236
2.3 Voice Fugue Hess237
3. Six Fugues for Quartet Hess238
4. Coral Fugue Hess239
5. Five Double Fugues with Dual Confrontation (4 Voices) Hess243
6. Triple Fugue (4 Voices) Hess244
7. For String Quartet Fugue's Hess245 (Chapter)
8. Flute Sonata WoO. Anh.4
9. Sonatine Anh.5-1
10. Sonatine Anh.5-2
11. Eight Variations on “I Only Have a Small Hut” Anh. 10

Tobias Koch (Forte Piano) (1,2,4,9,10)
Covington String Quartet (3,5,6), Enderion Quartet (7)
Severino Gasseroni (Flute), Bruno Canino (Piano) (8)
Rudolf Buchbinder (piano) (11)
Recording: 2019 (1, .2,4,9,10), 2006 (3,5,6), 2008 (7), 1973 (8) , 1976 (11)
Arno Schuh
2019-09-02 13:09:55 UTC
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I'm missing the organ works. Seems they are not included.
Post by John Fowler
Most interesting is Vol.8: WORLD PREMIERES & RARITIES (3 CDs)
[Vol.8] World's first recording & rare work (Disc99-101)
Disc99
1. Andante WoO.211
2. Anglaise WoO.212 (Hess61)
3. Bagatelle WoO.216 (Hess73)
4. Bagatelle WoO.216 (Hess74 )
5. Minuet WoO.217
6. Bagatelle Hess57
7. Small item (Kullak f.51 / 52)
8. Andante WoO.213-1
9. Finale WoO.213-2
10. Allegro WoO.213-3
11. Rondo WoO .213-4
12. Bagatelle WoO.59 “For Elise” (1822 edition)
13. Waltz WoO.219 (Hess68)
14. Study for Piano Hess58
15. Allegretto (Kafka f.47v)
16. Piano Pieces (Kafka f.160r)
17. Piano Pieces (Kafka f.41v)
18. Piano Pieces (Kafka f.47v, 5-8)
19. Piano Pieces Hess59
20. Adagio Ma Non Malt Hess70 (Chapter)
21. Malt Adagio Hess71 (break)
22. Theme and Variations Hess72
23. Two German Dances Hess67
24. Minuet-Rio WoO.209 (Hess88)
25. Piano Sonata "Fantasy Sonata" UnV12
26. "Give us Peace" Hess Anh. 57 (piano arrangement by Beethoven)
27. “Oh, Hope” (Theme of 4 bars for the Duke of Rudolph) WoO.200 (Hess75)
28. Wellington's Victory Op.91 (piano arrangement) Hess97
29. Last contemplation (Andante Maestoso) WoO.62
30. Symphony No.7 Op.92 Hess96 (piano arrangement by Beethoven)
Ronald Brautyham (Forte Piano) (1-6,29)
Tobias Koch (Forte Piano) (7-26,30)
Steven Beck (27, 28)
Recording: 2010 (1,3,4,6), 2014 (2,5), 2019 (7-26,30), 2000-2001
(27), 2002 (28), 2013 year (29)
Disc100
1. (arranger from Quintet for pipe music and piano) piano Quartet Op.16
2. and folk songs subject of 10 Kanade songs Op.107
3. last of melodic subject (Andante Maesutoso) WoO.62
4. String Quartet (Handel oratorio arrangement from the fugue of "Solomon" Overture) Hess36
5. Violin Sonata UnV11 (Hess46) (Fragments)
6. Duo for Violin and Cello UnV8 (Chapter)
7. Scherzo to String Trio Op.9-1
8. Allegretto for String Quartet WoO.210
9. Minuet Hess331 (Chapter)
10. String Quartet Palastrella for Hess332 (Chapter)
11. Minuet for String Quartet-Scherzo Hess333 (Chapter)
12. Allegro Hess334
Isaac Stern (Violin: 1), Jaime Laredo (Viola: 1)
Yoyo Ma (Cello: 1) , Emmanuel Ax (piano: 1)
Daniel Hope (violin: 2,5), Sebastian Kunauer (piano: 2,5)
Daniel Hope, Ikki Opitz (violin: 3)
Amihai Gross, Tatiana Maslenco ( Viola: 3)
Daniel Müller-Shot (cello: 3)
Lucas Hagen, Reiner Schmidt ( Violin: 4)
Veronica Hagen (Viola: 4), Clemens Hagen (Cello: 4)
Daniel Hope (Violin: 6), Daniel Muller Schott (Cello: 6)
Daniel Hope (Violin: 7), Amihai Gross (Viola: 7)
Daniel Muller-Shot (Cello: 7)
Enderion Quartet (8), Covington String Quartet (9-12)
Recording: 1992 (1), 2019 (2,3,5-7), 1997 (4), 2008 (8), 2006 (9-12)
Disc101
1. 2-voice fugue Hess236
2.3 Voice Fugue Hess237
3. Six Fugues for Quartet Hess238
4. Coral Fugue Hess239
5. Five Double Fugues with Dual Confrontation (4 Voices) Hess243
6. Triple Fugue (4 Voices) Hess244
7. For String Quartet Fugue's Hess245 (Chapter)
8. Flute Sonata WoO. Anh.4
9. Sonatine Anh.5-1
10. Sonatine Anh.5-2
11. Eight Variations on “I Only Have a Small Hut” Anh. 10
Tobias Koch (Forte Piano) (1,2,4,9,10)
Covington String Quartet (3,5,6), Enderion Quartet (7)
Severino Gasseroni (Flute), Bruno Canino (Piano) (8)
Rudolf Buchbinder (piano) (11)
Recording: 2019 (1, .2,4,9,10), 2006 (3,5,6), 2008 (7), 1973 (8) , 1976 (11)
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Organ works on CD 51
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As best as I can decipher it, these stereo recordings of Symphonies and independent Overtures (unattached to a larger work) are on CDs 1-15 + Blu-ray Audio + DVD:
At least four recordings of every symphony - five of Symphonies 4 & 7 (two Ninth Symphonies from Karajan), and that's not counting the mono recordings.

Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Karajan (1976)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO
Symphonies 4,7 - Carlos Kleiber on DVD
Coriolan Overture - Chailly
Creatures of Prometheus Overture – Chailly
Egmont Overture & Incidental Music - Szell
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan

Oscar: the new Nelsons/VPO recordings of Symphonies 7 & 8 are included.
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As best as I can decipher it, these stereo recordings of Symphonies and independent Overtures (unattached to a larger work) are on CDs 1-15 + Blu-ray Audio + DVD:
At least four recordings of every symphony - five of Symphonies 4 & 7 (two Ninth Symphonies from Karajan), and that's not counting the mono recordings.

Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Karajan (1976)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO

Coriolan Overture - Chailly
Creatures of Prometheus Overture – Chailly
Egmont Overture & Incidental Music - Szell
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan

Oscar: the new Nelsons/VPO recordings of Symphonies 7 & 8 are included.
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2019-09-02 13:41:25 UTC
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VOLUME 2: CONCERTI (CDs 16-23)

Piano Concerto WoO4 - Brautigam/Parrott
Piano Concerto 1 - Argerich/Ozawa , Buchbinder/Thielemann
Piano Concerto 2 - Argerich/Chmura , Gulda/Stein
Piano Concerto 3 - Brendel/Rattle , Polini/Abbado
Piano Concerto 4 - Arrau/Davis , Brendel/Rattle , Pollini/ Böhm
Piano Concerto 5 - Kempff/Leitner , Zimerman/Bernstein
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO6 - Richter/Sanderling
Choral Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra - Pollini/Abbado
Violin Concerto - Mutter/Karajan , Repin/Muti
Violin Concerto arr. Piano & Orchestra - Barenboim piano & conductor
Romances for Violin & Orchestra - Mutter /Masur
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
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VOLUME 2: CONCERTI (CDs 16-23)

Piano Concerto WoO4 - Brautigam/Parrott
Piano Concerto 1 - Argerich/Ozawa , Buchbinder/Thielemann
Piano Concerto 2 - Argerich/Chmura , Gulda/Stein
Piano Concerto 3 - Brendel/Rattle , Polini/Abbado
Piano Concerto 4 - Arrau/Davis , Brendel/Rattle , Pollini/ Böhm
Piano Concerto 5 - Kempff/Leitner , Zimerman/Bernstein
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO6 - Richter/Sanderling
Choral Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra - Pollini/Abbado
Violin Concerto - Mutter/Karajan , Repin/Muti
Violin Concerto arr. Piano & Orchestra - Barenboim piano & conductor
Romances for Violin & Orchestra - Mutter /Masur
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
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VOLUME 1: SYMPHONIES + VOLUME 2: CONCERTI
As best as I can decipher it, these stereo recordings of Symphonies and Overtures (unattached to a larger work) are on CDs 1-15 + Blu-ray Audio + DVD:
At least four recordings of every symphony - five of Symphonies 4 & 7 (two Ninth Symphonies from Karajan), and that's not counting the mono recordings.
Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Karajan (1976)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO
Coriolan Overture - Chailly
Creatures of Prometheus Overture – Chailly
Egmont Overture & Incidental Music - Szell
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan

VOLUME 2: CONCERTI (CDs 16-23)

Piano Concerto WoO4 - Brautigam/Parrott
Piano Concerto 1 - Argerich/Ozawa , Buchbinder/Thielemann
Piano Concerto 2 - Argerich/Chmura , Gulda/Stein
Piano Concerto 3 - Brendel/Rattle , Polini/Abbado
Piano Concerto 4 - Arrau/Davis , Brendel/Rattle , Pollini/ Böhm
Piano Concerto 5 - Kempff/Leitner , Zimerman/Bernstein
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO6 - Richter/Sanderling
Choral Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra - Pollini/Abbado
Violin Concerto - Mutter/Karajan , Repin/Muti
Violin Concerto arr. Piano & Orchestra - Barenboim piano & conductor
Violin Concerto WoO5 - Kremer/Tchakarov
Romances for Violin & Orchestra - Mutter/Masur
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
Triple Concerto - Chung Trio/Chung
Mozart Piano Concerto No. 20 K.466 cadenza: Beethoven) - Serkin/Abbado
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Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
First time I have heard of this piece. There are several performances
on Youtube. Nice early Beethoven. I think it is a slow movement from
an unfinished concerto. Anybody know more?
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DG NEW BEETHOVEN EDITION: Symphonies, Concerti, and Piano Sonatas

SYMPHONIES & OVERTURES on 16 CDs + Blu-ray Audio + DVD:
At least four stereo recordings of every symphony (two Ninths from Karajan), not counting the mono recordings in Volume 9:

Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (all) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO
Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Fricsay, Karajan (1976)
Coriolan Overture - Chailly
Creatures of Prometheus Overture - Chailly
Egmont Overture - Fricsay, Szell
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan

CONCERTI stereo recordings, not including the mono historical recordings in Volume 9:

Piano Concerto WoO4 - Brautigam/Parrott
Piano Concerto 1 - Argerich/Ozawa -- Buchbinder/Thielemann -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 2 - Argerich/Chmura -- Gulda/Stein -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 3 - Brendel/Rattle -- A.Fischer/Fricsay -- Pollini/Abbado
Piano Concerto 4 - Arrau/Davis -- Brendel/Rattle -- Pollini/ Böhm -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 5 - Kempff/Leitner -- Zimerman/Bernstein
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO6 - Richter/Sanderling -- Levin/Gardiner period instruments
Choral Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra - Pollini/Abbado -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Violin Concerto - Mutter/Karajan -- Repin/Muti -- Schneiderhan/Jochum -- Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Violin Concerto arr. Piano & Orchestra - Barenboim piano & conductor
Violin Concerto WoO5 - Kremer/Tchakarov
Romances for Violin & Orchestra - Mutter/Masur
Romance No.2 - Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
Triple Concerto - Chung Trio/Chung
Mozart Piano Concerto No. 20 K.466 cadenza: Beethoven) - Serkin/Abbado

PIANO SONATAS stereo recordings, not including the mono historical recordings in Volume 9:

Piano Sonata No.1 Op.2-1 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.2 Op.2-2 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.3 Op. 2-3 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.4 Op.7 - Emil Gilels, Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
Piano Sonata No.5 Op.10-1 - Zoltan Kocsis
Piano Sonata No.6 Op.10- 2 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.7 Op.10-3 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.8 Op.13 - Steven Kovacevich, Radu Lupu, Steven Rubin fortepiano
Piano Sonata No.9 Op.14-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.10 Op.14-2 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.11 Op.22 - Alfred Brendel, Sviatoslav Richter
Piano Sonata No.12 Op.26 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.13 Op.27-1 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.14 Op.27-2 - Nelson Freire, Murray Perahia, Steven Rubin fortepiano
Piano Sonata No.15 Op.28 - Alfred Brendel, Friederich Gulda
Piano Sonata No.16 Op.31-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.17 Op.31-2 - Claudio Arrau, Helene Grimaud, Steven Rubin fortepiano
Piano Sonata No.18 Op.31-3 - Steven Kovacevich
Piano Sonata No.19 Op.49-1 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.20 Op.49-2 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.21 Op.53 - Nelson Freire, Emil Gilels,
Piano Sonata No.22 Op.54 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.23 Op.57 - Claudio Arrau, Emil Gilels, Friederich Gulda
Piano Sonata No.24 Op.78 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.25 Op.79 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.26 Op.81a - Emil Gilels, Evgeni Kissin
Piano Sonata No.27 Op.90 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.28 Op.101 - Wilhelm Backhaus, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.29 Op.106 - Emil Gilels, Murray Perahia, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.30 Op.109 - Emil Gilels, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.31 Op.110 - Alfred Brendel, Maurizio Pollini. Rudolf Serkin
Piano Sonata No.32 Op.111 - Evo Pogorelich, Maurizio Pollini, Mitsuko Uchida
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DG NEW BEETHOVEN EDITION: Symphonies, Concerti, and Piano Sonatas (stereo unless otherwise indicated)

SYMPHONIES & OVERTURES on 18 CDs + Blu-ray Audio + DVD:
At least four stereo recordings of every symphony (including two Ninths from Karajan).

Symphonies 1-9 (complete) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (complete) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO
Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber, Furtwangler (1943 mono), Erich Kleiber (1953 mono)
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm, Erich Kleiber (1953 mono)
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons, Scherchen (1954 mono)
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Fricsay, Karajan (1976 recording)
Coriolan Overture - Chailly, Furtwangler (1943 mono)
Creatures of Prometheus Overture - Chailly
Egmont Overture - Fricsay, Szell, Furtwangler (1947 mono)
Leonore Overture No.1 - Abbado
Leonore Overture No.2 - Gardiner (period instruments), Busch (1950 mono)
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly, Klemperer (1927 mono), Furtwangler (1944 mono)
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan
Grosse Fugue - Furtwangler w/ Berlin Philharmonic strings (1952 mono)

CONCERTI:
Piano Concerto WoO4 - Brautigam/Parrott
Piano Concerto 1 - Argerich/Ozawa -- Buchbinder/Thielemann -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 2 - Argerich/Chmura -- Gulda/Stein -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 3 - Brendel/Rattle -- A.Fischer/Fricsay -- Pollini/Abbado
Piano Concerto 4 - Arrau/Davis -- Brendel/Rattle -- Pollini/ Böhm -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 5 - Kempff/Leitner -- Zimerman/Bernstein
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO6 - Richter/Sanderling -- Levin/Gardiner period instruments
Choral Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra - Pollini/Abbado -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Violin Concerto - Mutter/Karajan -- Repin/Muti -- Schneiderhan/Jochum -- Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Violin Concerto arr. Piano & Orchestra - Barenboim piano & conductor
Violin Concerto WoO5 - Kremer/Tchakarov
Romances for Violin & Orchestra - Mutter/Masur
Romance No.2 - Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
Triple Concerto - Chung Trio/Chung
Mozart Piano Concerto No. 20 K.466 cadenza: Beethoven) - Serkin/Abbado

PIANO SONATAS:
Piano Sonatas No.1-32 (complete) - Wilhelm Kempff (1964-1965)
Piano Sonata No.1 Op.2-1 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.2 Op.2-2 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.3 Op. 2-3 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.4 Op.7 - Emil Gilels, Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
Piano Sonata No.5 Op.10-1 - Zoltan Kocsis
Piano Sonata No.6 Op.10- 2 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.7 Op.10-3 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.8 Op.13 - Steven Kovacevich, Radu Lupu, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.9 Op.14-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.10 Op.14-2 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.11 Op.22 - Alfred Brendel, Sviatoslav Richter
Piano Sonata No.12 Op.26 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.13 Op.27-1 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.14 Op.27-2 - Nelson Freire, Murray Perahia, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.15 Op.28 - Alfred Brendel, Friederich Gulda
Piano Sonata No.16 Op.31-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.17 Op.31-2 - Claudio Arrau, Helene Grimaud, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.18 Op.31-3 - Steven Kovacevich, Clara Haskil (1955 mono)
Piano Sonata No.19 Op.49-1 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.20 Op.49-2 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.21 Op.53 - Nelson Freire, Emil Gilels,
Piano Sonata No.22 Op.54 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.23 Op.57 - Claudio Arrau, Emil Gilels, Friederich Gulda, Wilhelm Kempff (1951 mono)
Piano Sonata No.24 Op.78 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.25 Op.79 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.26 Op.81a - Emil Gilels, Evgeni Kissin
Piano Sonata No.27 Op.90 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.28 Op.101 - Wilhelm Backhaus, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.29 Op.106 - Emil Gilels, Murray Perahia, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.30 Op.109 - Emil Gilels, Maurizio Pollini, Artur Schnabel (1933 mono)
Piano Sonata No.31 Op.110 - Alfred Brendel, Maurizio Pollini. Rudolf Serkin, Wilhelm Kempff (1936 mono)
Piano Sonata No.32 Op.111 - Evo Pogorelich, Maurizio Pollini, Mitsuko Uchida
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DG NEW BEETHOVEN EDITION: Symphonies, Concerti, and Piano Sonatas (stereo unless otherwise indicated)
At least four stereo recordings of every symphony (including two Ninths from Karajan).
Symphonies 1-9 (complete) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (complete) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO
Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber, Furtwangler (1943 mono), Erich Kleiber (1953 mono)
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm, Erich Kleiber (1953 mono)
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons, Scherchen (1954 mono)
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Fricsay, Karajan (1976 recording)
Coriolan Overture - Chailly, Furtwangler (1943 mono)
Creatures of Prometheus Overture - Chailly
Egmont Overture - Fricsay, Szell, Furtwangler (1947 mono)
Leonore Overture No.1 - Abbado
Leonore Overture No.2 - Gardiner (period instruments), Busch (1950 mono)
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly, Klemperer (1927 mono), Furtwangler (1944 mono)
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan
Grosse Fugue - Furtwangler w/ Berlin Philharmonic strings (1952 mono)
Piano Concerto WoO4 - Brautigam/Parrott
Piano Concerto 1 - Argerich/Ozawa -- Buchbinder/Thielemann -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 2 - Argerich/Chmura -- Gulda/Stein -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 3 - Brendel/Rattle -- A.Fischer/Fricsay -- Pollini/Abbado
Piano Concerto 4 - Arrau/Davis -- Brendel/Rattle -- Pollini/ Böhm -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 5 - Kempff/Leitner -- Zimerman/Bernstein
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO6 - Richter/Sanderling -- Levin/Gardiner period instruments
Choral Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra - Pollini/Abbado -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Violin Concerto - Mutter/Karajan -- Repin/Muti -- Schneiderhan/Jochum -- Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Violin Concerto arr. Piano & Orchestra - Barenboim piano & conductor
Violin Concerto WoO5 - Kremer/Tchakarov
Romances for Violin & Orchestra - Mutter/Masur
Romance No.2 - Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
Triple Concerto - Chung Trio/Chung
Mozart Piano Concerto No. 20 K.466 cadenza: Beethoven) - Serkin/Abbado
Piano Sonatas No.1-32 (complete) - Wilhelm Kempff (1964-1965)
Piano Sonata No.1 Op.2-1 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.2 Op.2-2 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.3 Op. 2-3 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.4 Op.7 - Emil Gilels, Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
Piano Sonata No.5 Op.10-1 - Zoltan Kocsis
Piano Sonata No.6 Op.10- 2 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.7 Op.10-3 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.8 Op.13 - Steven Kovacevich, Radu Lupu, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.9 Op.14-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.10 Op.14-2 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.11 Op.22 - Alfred Brendel, Sviatoslav Richter
Piano Sonata No.12 Op.26 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.13 Op.27-1 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.14 Op.27-2 - Nelson Freire, Murray Perahia, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.15 Op.28 - Alfred Brendel, Friederich Gulda
Piano Sonata No.16 Op.31-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.17 Op.31-2 - Claudio Arrau, Helene Grimaud, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.18 Op.31-3 - Steven Kovacevich, Clara Haskil (1955 mono)
Piano Sonata No.19 Op.49-1 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.20 Op.49-2 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.21 Op.53 - Nelson Freire, Emil Gilels,
Piano Sonata No.22 Op.54 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.23 Op.57 - Claudio Arrau, Emil Gilels, Friederich Gulda, Wilhelm Kempff (1951 mono)
Piano Sonata No.24 Op.78 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.25 Op.79 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.26 Op.81a - Emil Gilels, Evgeni Kissin
Piano Sonata No.27 Op.90 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.28 Op.101 - Wilhelm Backhaus, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.29 Op.106 - Emil Gilels, Murray Perahia, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.30 Op.109 - Emil Gilels, Maurizio Pollini, Artur Schnabel (1933 mono)
Piano Sonata No.31 Op.110 - Alfred Brendel, Maurizio Pollini. Rudolf Serkin, Wilhelm Kempff (1936 mono)
Piano Sonata No.32 Op.111 - Evo Pogorelich, Maurizio Pollini, Mitsuko Uchida
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I hope there are texts and translations for the vocal works - sometimes these big boxes forget.
John Fowler
2019-09-03 12:24:19 UTC
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According to the picture on Tower Japan's website:
https://tower.jp/item/4944557/%E3%81%B9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3-%E6%96%B0%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%A8%E9%9B%86-%5b118CD%EF%BC%8B2DVD%EF%BC%8B3Blu-ray-Audio%5d%EF%BC%9C%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%9B%A4%EF%BC%9E
The DG box includes, in addition to a big hardcover book, 9 separate booklets devoted to each volume.
In the picture on the right, the CD jackets are black, and the booklets are nine different colors.
Each booklet is fairly thick and could have room for texts and translations.
Rosin
2019-09-04 02:38:44 UTC
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DG NEW BEETHOVEN EDITION: Symphonies, Concerti, and Piano Sonatas (stereo unless otherwise indicated)
At least four stereo recordings of every symphony (including two Ninths from Karajan).
Symphonies 1-9 (complete) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (complete) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO
Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber, Furtwangler (1943 mono), Erich Kleiber (1953 mono)
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm, Erich Kleiber (1953 mono)
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons, Scherchen (1954 mono)
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Fricsay, Karajan (1976 recording)
Coriolan Overture - Chailly, Furtwangler (1943 mono)
Creatures of Prometheus Overture - Chailly
Egmont Overture - Fricsay, Szell, Furtwangler (1947 mono)
Leonore Overture No.1 - Abbado
Leonore Overture No.2 - Gardiner (period instruments), Busch (1950 mono)
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly, Klemperer (1927 mono), Furtwangler (1944 mono)
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan
Grosse Fugue - Furtwangler w/ Berlin Philharmonic strings (1952 mono)
Piano Concerto WoO4 - Brautigam/Parrott
Piano Concerto 1 - Argerich/Ozawa -- Buchbinder/Thielemann -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 2 - Argerich/Chmura -- Gulda/Stein -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 3 - Brendel/Rattle -- A.Fischer/Fricsay -- Pollini/Abbado
Piano Concerto 4 - Arrau/Davis -- Brendel/Rattle -- Pollini/ Böhm -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 5 - Kempff/Leitner -- Zimerman/Bernstein
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO6 - Richter/Sanderling -- Levin/Gardiner period instruments
Choral Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra - Pollini/Abbado -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Violin Concerto - Mutter/Karajan -- Repin/Muti -- Schneiderhan/Jochum -- Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Violin Concerto arr. Piano & Orchestra - Barenboim piano & conductor
Violin Concerto WoO5 - Kremer/Tchakarov
Romances for Violin & Orchestra - Mutter/Masur
Romance No.2 - Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
Triple Concerto - Chung Trio/Chung
Mozart Piano Concerto No. 20 K.466 cadenza: Beethoven) - Serkin/Abbado
Piano Sonatas No.1-32 (complete) - Wilhelm Kempff (1964-1965)
Piano Sonata No.1 Op.2-1 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.2 Op.2-2 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.3 Op. 2-3 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.4 Op.7 - Emil Gilels, Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
Piano Sonata No.5 Op.10-1 - Zoltan Kocsis
Piano Sonata No.6 Op.10- 2 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.7 Op.10-3 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.8 Op.13 - Steven Kovacevich, Radu Lupu, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.9 Op.14-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.10 Op.14-2 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.11 Op.22 - Alfred Brendel, Sviatoslav Richter
Piano Sonata No.12 Op.26 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.13 Op.27-1 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.14 Op.27-2 - Nelson Freire, Murray Perahia, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.15 Op.28 - Alfred Brendel, Friederich Gulda
Piano Sonata No.16 Op.31-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.17 Op.31-2 - Claudio Arrau, Helene Grimaud, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.18 Op.31-3 - Steven Kovacevich, Clara Haskil (1955 mono)
Piano Sonata No.19 Op.49-1 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.20 Op.49-2 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.21 Op.53 - Nelson Freire, Emil Gilels,
Piano Sonata No.22 Op.54 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.23 Op.57 - Claudio Arrau, Emil Gilels, Friederich Gulda, Wilhelm Kempff (1951 mono)
Piano Sonata No.24 Op.78 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.25 Op.79 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.26 Op.81a - Emil Gilels, Evgeni Kissin
Piano Sonata No.27 Op.90 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.28 Op.101 - Wilhelm Backhaus, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.29 Op.106 - Emil Gilels, Murray Perahia, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.30 Op.109 - Emil Gilels, Maurizio Pollini, Artur Schnabel (1933 mono)
Piano Sonata No.31 Op.110 - Alfred Brendel, Maurizio Pollini. Rudolf Serkin, Wilhelm Kempff (1936 mono)
Piano Sonata No.32 Op.111 - Evo Pogorelich, Maurizio Pollini, Mitsuko Uchida
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"Piano Sonata No.30 Op.109 - Artur Schnabel (1933 mono)"
Isn't Schnabel under EMI/Warner?
John Fowler
2019-09-04 10:43:43 UTC
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There are some borrowings:
Disc 93 has Tilson Thomas/LSO recordings borrowed from Sony (Vocal Music with Orchestral Accompaniment).
Disc 100 has Stern,Laredo, Yo-Yo MaMa and Ax in the Piano Quartet Op.16 ("arranger from Quintet for pipe music and piano") borrowed from Sony (World Premieres and Rarities).
Disc 107 has Schnabel in Sonata 30 borrowed from EMI (historical recordings).
John Fowler
2019-09-04 10:55:26 UTC
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DG NEW BEETHOVEN EDITION: Symphonies, Concerti, and Piano Sonatas (stereo unless otherwise indicated)
At least four stereo recordings of every symphony (including two Ninths from Karajan).
Symphonies 1-9 (complete) - Gardiner (period instruments)
Symphonies 1-9 (complete) - Karajan (1962) on BLU-RAY AUDIO
Symphony 1 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 2 - Bernstein, Chailly
Symphony 3 - Abbado, Monteux
Symphony 4 - Abbado, Schmidt-Isserstedt, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 5 - Giulini, Carlos Kleiber, Furtwangler (1943 mono), Erich Kleiber (1953 mono)
Symphony 6 - Abbado, Böhm, Erich Kleiber (1953 mono)
Symphony 7 - Carlos Kleiber, Nelsons, Carlos Kleiber (DVD)
Symphony 8 - Chailly, Nelsons, Scherchen (1954 mono)
Symphony 9 - Bernstein, Fricsay, Karajan (1976 recording)
Coriolan Overture - Chailly, Furtwangler (1943 mono)
Creatures of Prometheus Overture - Chailly
Egmont Overture - Fricsay, Szell, Furtwangler (1947 mono)
Leonore Overture No.1 - Abbado
Leonore Overture No.2 - Gardiner (period instruments), Busch (1950 mono)
Leonore Overture No.3 - Chailly, Klemperer (1927 mono), Furtwangler (1944 mono)
Name Day Overture - Chailly
Wellington’s Victory - Karajan
Grosse Fugue - Furtwangler w/ Berlin Philharmonic strings (1952 mono)
Piano Concerto WoO4 - Brautigam/Parrott
Piano Concerto 1 - Argerich/Ozawa -- Buchbinder/Thielemann -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 2 - Argerich/Chmura -- Gulda/Stein -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 3 - Brendel/Rattle -- A.Fischer/Fricsay -- Pollini/Abbado
Piano Concerto 4 - Arrau/Davis -- Brendel/Rattle -- Pollini/ Böhm -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Piano Concerto 5 - Kempff/Leitner -- Zimerman/Bernstein
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO6 - Richter/Sanderling -- Levin/Gardiner period instruments
Choral Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra - Pollini/Abbado -- Levin/Gardiner (period instruments)
Violin Concerto - Mutter/Karajan -- Repin/Muti -- Schneiderhan/Jochum -- Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Violin Concerto arr. Piano & Orchestra - Barenboim piano & conductor
Violin Concerto WoO5 - Kremer/Tchakarov
Romances for Violin & Orchestra - Mutter/Masur
Romance No.2 - Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess13 - Patrick & Pascal Gallois, Chung piano & conductor
Triple Concerto - Chung Trio/Chung
Mozart Piano Concerto No. 20 K.466 cadenza: Beethoven) - Serkin/Abbado
Piano Sonatas No.1-32 (complete) - Wilhelm Kempff (1964-1965)
Piano Sonata No.1 Op.2-1 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.2 Op.2-2 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.3 Op. 2-3 - Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.4 Op.7 - Emil Gilels, Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
Piano Sonata No.5 Op.10-1 - Zoltan Kocsis
Piano Sonata No.6 Op.10- 2 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.7 Op.10-3 - Claudio Arrau
Piano Sonata No.8 Op.13 - Steven Kovacevich, Radu Lupu, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.9 Op.14-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.10 Op.14-2 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.11 Op.22 - Alfred Brendel, Sviatoslav Richter
Piano Sonata No.12 Op.26 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.13 Op.27-1 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.14 Op.27-2 - Nelson Freire, Murray Perahia, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.15 Op.28 - Alfred Brendel, Friederich Gulda
Piano Sonata No.16 Op.31-1 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.17 Op.31-2 - Claudio Arrau, Helene Grimaud, Steven Rubin (fortepiano)
Piano Sonata No.18 Op.31-3 - Steven Kovacevich, Clara Haskil (1955 mono)
Piano Sonata No.19 Op.49-1 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.20 Op.49-2 - Radu Lupu
Piano Sonata No.21 Op.53 - Nelson Freire, Emil Gilels,
Piano Sonata No.22 Op.54 - Alfred Brendel
Piano Sonata No.23 Op.57 - Claudio Arrau, Emil Gilels, Friederich Gulda, Wilhelm Kempff (1951 mono)
Piano Sonata No.24 Op.78 - Vladimir Ashkenazy
Piano Sonata No.25 Op.79 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.26 Op.81a - Emil Gilels, Evgeni Kissin
Piano Sonata No.27 Op.90 - Emil Gilels
Piano Sonata No.28 Op.101 - Wilhelm Backhaus, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.29 Op.106 - Emil Gilels, Murray Perahia, Maurizio Pollini
Piano Sonata No.30 Op.109 - Emil Gilels, Maurizio Pollini, Artur Schnabel (1933 mono)
Piano Sonata No.31 Op.110 - Alfred Brendel, Maurizio Pollini. Rudolf Serkin, Wilhelm Kempff (1936 mono)
Piano Sonata No.32 Op.111 - Evo Pogorelich, Maurizio Pollini, Mitsuko Uchida
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"Piano Sonata No.30 Op.109 - Artur Schnabel (1933 mono)"
Isn't Schnabel under EMI/Warner?
There are some borrowings:
Disc 93 has Tilson Thomas/LSO recordings from Sony (Vocal Music with Orchestral Accompaniment).
Disc 100 has Stern,Laredo, Yo-Yo Ma and Ax in the Piano Quartet Op.16 ("arranger from Quintet for pipe music and piano") from Sony (World Premieres and Rarities).
Disc 107 has Schnabel in Sonata 30 from EMI (historical recordings).
John Fowler
2019-09-04 14:17:31 UTC
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Disc 100 has Stern,Laredo, Yo-Yo Ma and Ax in the Piano Quartet Op.16 ("arranger from Quintet for pipe music and piano") from Sony (World Premieres and Rarities).
"arranger from Quintet for pipe music and piano"
= the Quintet for Piano and Winds Op.16 arranged by Beethoven for piano, violin, viola & cello.
John Fowler
2019-09-03 12:16:28 UTC
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COMPETITION: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07X7D9W6N
Warner Complete Beethoven has 80 CDs for €102.47
DG has 118 CDs + 3 Blu-ray audio + 2 DVDs for €249.99 (German Amazon).
BUT the DG box has a lot of duplication:
At least four recordings of each symphony.
Five recordings of the 9th Symphony: Bernstein, Fricsay, Karajan (1962 and 1974), and Gardiner (on period instruments).
Curious to see the detailed contents of the Warner box for comparison.
I may be able to save some money.

It has it's own forum "Warner joining the complete Beethoven parade" here on G mail, created by Randy Lane.
John Fowler
2019-09-03 12:28:20 UTC
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COMPETITION: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07X7D9W6N
Warner Complete Beethoven has 80 CDs for €102.47
DG has 118 CDs + 3 Blu-ray audio + 2 DVDs for €249.99 (German Amazon).
BUT the DG box has a lot of duplication:
At least four recordings of each symphony.
Five recordings of the 9th Symphony: Bernstein, Fricsay, Karajan (1962 and 1974), and Gardiner (on period instruments).
Curious to see the detailed contents of the Warner box for comparison.
I may be able to save some money.

It has it's own forum "Warner joining the complete Beethoven parade" here on G mail, created by Randy Lane.
John Fowler
2019-09-03 12:43:54 UTC
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I pre-ordered both boxes from Amazon DE(utschland) on September 3.
Prices are without VAT and include shipping to US.
DG box €213 DE = $233
Warner €89 DE = $97

I will cancel one of them in early November.
John Fowler
2019-09-04 19:17:42 UTC
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There are some borrowings from Sony and EMI:
- Disc 93 has Tilson Thomas/LSO Sony recordings of vocal music with orchestral accompaniment.
- Disc 100 has Beethoven's piano quartet arrangement of his Quintet for Piano and Winds Op.16 in the Sony recording with Stern, Laredo, Yo-Yo Ma and Ax.
- Disc 107 has Schnabel's 1933 EMI recording of Sonata 30.
Mark Zimmer
2019-09-05 15:17:59 UTC
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- Disc 93 has Tilson Thomas/LSO Sony recordings of vocal music with orchestral accompaniment.
- Disc 100 has Beethoven's piano quartet arrangement of his Quintet for Piano and Winds Op.16 in the Sony recording with Stern, Laredo, Yo-Yo Ma and Ax.
- Disc 107 has Schnabel's 1933 EMI recording of Sonata 30.
Yes, for these giant composer boxes Universal Music is not shy about licensing from other outfits to fill holes. They did the same with the Mozart 225 box and Bach 333 box.
John Fowler
2019-09-06 19:13:09 UTC
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Detailed list of Volume 9 "Rarities"
https://music.apple.com/us/album/beethoven-2020-rarities/1476078140?ign-mpt=uo%3D4
John Fowler
2019-09-08 11:58:59 UTC
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Amazon UK and Amazon France have printed the contents of the first 33 CDs in the Warner Beethoven box:
BEETHOVEN: WARNER vs DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON

Symphonies:
--- DG complete: Gardiner, Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique (period instruments)
--- DG complete: Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic (1962) BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- WA complete: Harnoncourt, Chamber Orchestra of Europe
--- DG: individual symphonies (23) conducted by Abbado, Bernstein, Bohm, Chailly, Fricsay, Furtwangler, Giulini, Karajan (1976), Carlos Kleiber, Erich Kleiber, Monteux, Nelsons, Scherchen, Schmidt-Isserstedt
--- DG: Symphonies 4 & 7: Carlos Kleiber, Amsterdam Concertgebouw DVD VIDEO

Overtures:
--- DG complete: conducted by Abbado, Busch, Chailly, Fricsay, Furtwangler, Gardiner (period instruments), Klemperer, Szell
--- WA:
Creatures of Prometheus:
--- DG: Orpheus Chamber Orchestra
--- WA: Harnoncourt
Egmont Incidental Music:
--- DG: Abbado
--- WA:
Ruins of Athens Incidental Music:
--- DG: Klee
--- WA:
Wellington’s Victory:
--- DG: Karajan
--- WA:
Grosse Fugue (orchestra):
--- DG: Furtwangler

Concerti for Piano:
--- DG complete: fifteen pianists: Argerich, Arrau, Brendel, Buchbinder, A. Fischer, Gulda, Kempff, Levin (period instruments), Pollini, Zimerman
--- WA complete: Schiff/Haitink, Staatskapelle Dresden
Concerto for Violin:
--- DG: four recordings: Mutter/Karajan , Repin/Muti , Schneiderhan/Jochum , Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
--- WA: Perlman/Giulini
Concerto for Violin (arr. piano):
--- DG: Barenboim, piano & cond.
--- WA: Duchable/Menuhin
Concerto for Piano, Violin & Cello:
--- DG: Chung Trio/Chung cond.
--- WA: Barenboim piano & cond, Perlman, Ma
Fantasy for Piano, Chorus & Orchestra:
--- DG: Levin/Gardiner (period instruments) - or - Pollini/Abbado
--- WA: Aimard/Harnoncourt
Romances (2) for Violin & Orchestra:
--- DG: Mutter/Masur - or - Zehetmair/Bruggen in Romance No.2 only (period instruments)
--- WA: Perlman/Barenboim

Concerto for Piano WoO 4:
--- DG: Brautigam/Parrott
--- WA: Brautigam piano & cond.
Concerto for Violin WoO5:
--- DG: Kremer/Tchakarov
--- WA: Luca/Zinman
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO 6:
--- DG: Levin/Gardiner (period instruments) - or - Richter/Sanderliong
--- WA: Aimard/Harnoncourt
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess 13:
--- DG: Gallois brothers, Chung piano & conductor
Mozart: Piano Concerto No.20 K.466 with cadenzas by Beethoven:
--- DG Serkin/Abbado

Piano Sonatas (32):
--- DG complete: Wilhelm Kempff BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- DG individual sonatas (57) played by Arrau, Ashkenazy, Backhaus, Brendel, Freire, Gilels, Grimaud, Gulda, Haskil, Kempff (1951), Kissin, Kocsis, Kovacevich, Lupu, Michelangeli, Perahaia, Pogorelich, Pollini, Richter, Rubin (fortepiano), Schnabel, Serkin, Uchida
--- WA complete: Stephen Kovacevich

Violin Sonatas (10)
--- DG: Kremer/Argerich (1-4) , Perlman/Ashkenazy (5,6) , Mutter/ Orkis (7, 9) , Dumay/Pires (8-10) , Menuhin/Kempf (variations etc.)
--- WA:

Cello Sonatas (5):
--- DG complete: Maisky, Argerich
--- WA:

String Trios (5):
--- DG complete: Mutter, Giuranna, Rostropovich
--- WA complete: Perlman, Zuckerman, Harrell

String Quartets
--- DG complete: Amadeus Quartet BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- WA complete: Artemis Quartet

Fidelio - Opera:
--- DG: Abbado
--- DG: Bernstein DVD VIDEO
--- WA:
Leonore - Opera:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments)
--- WA:
John Fowler
2019-09-08 15:53:09 UTC
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Correction:
Concerti for Piano:
--- DG complete: fifteen recordings by ten pianists: Argerich, Arrau, Brendel, Buchbinder, A. Fischer, Gulda, Kempff, Levin (period instruments), Pollini, Zimerman
--- WA complete: Schiff/Haitink, Staatskapelle Dresden
John Fowler
2019-09-09 15:16:01 UTC
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Updated September 9 BEETHOVEN: MAJOR WORKS in WARNER BOX vs DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON BOX:
I still haven’t discovered the contents of CDs 34-80 in the Warner box on the internet.
In some cases I made an educated guess (indicated by ????????????)

SYMPHONIES:
--- DG complete: Gardiner, Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique (period instruments)
--- DG complete: Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic (1962) BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- WA complete: Harnoncourt, Chamber Orchestra of Europe
--- DG: 23 recordings by 14 conductors: Abbado, Bernstein, Bohm, Chailly, Fricsay, Furtwangler (mono), Giulini, Karajan (1976), Carlos Kleiber, Erich Kleiber (mono), Monteux, Nelsons, Scherchen (mono), Schmidt-Isserstedt
--- DG: Symphonies 4 & 7: Carlos Kleiber, Amsterdam Concertgebouw DVD VIDEO
OVERTURES:
--- DG complete: conducted by Abbado, Busch (mono), Chailly, Fricsay, Furtwangler (mono), Gardiner (period instruments), Klemperer (mono), Szell
--- WA:
CREATURES OF PROMETHEUS:
--- DG: Orpheus Chamber Orchestra
--- WA: Harnoncourt
EGMONT INCIDENTAL MUSIC:
--- DG: Abbado
--- WA:
RUINS OF ATHENS INCIDENTAL MUSIC:
--- DG: Klee
--- WA:
WELLINGTON’S VICTORY:
--- DG: Karajan
--- WA:
GROSSE FUGUE (orchestra):
--- DG: Furtwangler (mono)
MASS Op.86:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments)
--- WA: Giulini ???????????????????????????????
MISSA SOLEMNIS:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments) - and - Karajan (1966)
--- WA:
CHRIST ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES:
--- DG: Klee
--- WA:
FIDELIO:
--- DG: Abbado
--- DG: Bernstein DVD VIDEO
--- WA:
LEONORE:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments)
--- WA:

CONCERTI (5) for PIANO:
--- DG complete: 15 recordings by 10 pianists: Argerich, Arrau, Brendel, Buchbinder, A. Fischer, Gulda, Kempff, Levin (period instruments), Pollini, Zimerman
--- WA complete: Schiff/Haitink, Staatskapelle Dresden
CONCERTO for VIOLIN:
--- DG: four recordings: Mutter/Karajan - Repin/Muti - Schneiderhan/Jochum - Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
--- WA: Perlman/Giulini
CONCERTO for VIOLIN arranged for PIANO:
--- DG: Barenboim, piano & cond.
--- WA: Duchable/Menuhin
CONCERTO for PIANO, VIOLIN, CELLO:
--- DG: Chung Trio/Chung cond.
--- WA: Barenboim piano & cond, Perlman, Ma
FANTASY FOR PIANO, CHORUS & ORCHESTRA:
--- DG: Levin/Gardiner (period instruments) - and - Pollini/Abbado
--- WA: Aimard/Harnoncourt
ROMANCES (2) for VIOLIN & ORCHESTRA:
--- DG: Mutter/Masur - and - Zehetmair/Bruggen in Romance No.2 only (period instruments)
--- WA: Perlman/BarenboiM

PIANO SONATAS:
--- DG complete: Wilhelm Kempff BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- DG: 57 recordings by 23 pianists: Arrau, Ashkenazy, Backhaus, Brendel, Freire, Gilels, Grimaud, Gulda, Haskil (mono), Kempff (mono), Kissin, Kocsis, Kovacevich, Lupu, Michelangeli, Perahia, Pogorelich, Pollini, Richter, Rubin (fortepiano), Schnabel (mono), Serkin, Uchida
--- WA complete: Stephen Kovacevich
VIOLIN SONATAS:
--- DG: Kremer/Argerich (1-4) - Perlman/Ashkenazy (5,6), - Mutter/Orkis (7,9) - Dumay/Pires (8-10) - Menuhin/Kempff (variations etc.)
--- WA: Zukerman/ Barenboim ??????????????????????????????
CELLO SONATAS:
--- DG complete: Maisky/Argerich
--- DG: Fournier/Kempff (3 & 5)
--- WA complete: Starker/Buchbinder ???????????????????

PIANO TRIOS:
--- DG: complete: Beaux Arts Trio - Gilels/Kogan/Rostropovich (mono) & Previn/Mullova/Schiff (Archduke Trio) - Kempff/Szeryng/Fournier (variations etc.)
--- WA: Barenboim/Zukerman/DuPre ????????????????????????????
STRING TRIOS:
--- DG complete: Mutter/Giuranna/Rostropovich
--- WA complete: Perlman/Zukerman/Harrell
STRING QUARTETS:
--- DG complete: Amadeus Quartet BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- DG complete: Emerson Quartet (early & middle quartets) - Takacs Quartet & Hagen Quartet (late quartets)
--- DG: assorted quartets by Busch Quartet (mono), Hollywood Quartet (mono), Lindsay Quartet, Quartetto Italiano
--- WA complete: Artemis Quartet

--------------- Unpublished Concerti:
Concerto for Piano WoO 4:
--- DG: Brautigam/Parrott
--- WA: Brautigam piano & cond.
Concerto for Violin WoO5:
--- DG: Kremer/Tchakarov
--- WA: Luca/Zinman
Rondo for Piano & Orchestra WoO 6:
--- DG: Levin/Gardiner (period instruments) - and - Richter/Sanderling
--- WA: Aimard/Harnoncourt
Romance cantabile for Flute, Bassoon, Piano & Orchestra Hess 13:
--- DG: Gallois brothers/Chung piano & conductor
--- WA:
Mozart: Piano Concerto No.20 K.466 with cadenzas by Beethoven:
--- DG Serkin/Abbado
John Fowler
2019-09-12 19:25:40 UTC
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COMPLETE BEETHOVEN: NAXOS vs DG vs. WARNER (updated September 12)
New from Naxos:
" So much more than just another Beethoven complete box! World premieres, rarities, fragments - Beethoven REALLY COMPLETE! (?)
Following the encyclopaedic approach of the label NAXOS, all of the unfinished works of Ludwig van Beethoven were recorded for this set of 90 CDs as well as alternative versions and Beethoven's transcriptions of his own works for various instrumentations. Thus, the NAXOS Beethoven Complete Edition contains many unique recordings and even several world premiere recordings that are only available on NAXOS.”
If this claim is true, and the Naxos box is REALLY COMPLETE, Naxos will have scooped the competition (prices are approximate).
-- Naxos: October 15 = 90 CDs = 100 Euros
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/ludwig-van-beethoven-beethoven-complete-edition/hnum/9449475
-- DG: November 8 = 102 CDs (includes lots of duplications) + 16 historical CDs + 3 Blu-rays + 2 DVDs = 240 Euros
https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Beethoven-1770-1827_000000000034571/item_Beethoven-The-New-Complete-Edition-118CD-2DVD-3blu-ray-Audio-Limited_10112427
-- Warner: November 29 = 80 CDs = 100 Euros
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X7D9W6N/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

The DG box costs more than the Naxos and Warner combined.
The Warner box is modelled on that labels Berlioz and Debussy boxes, which means it comes with an extremely attractive booklet, CDs in jackets with period paintings on the front, but no texts or translations for vocal works.
Based on past history and price, the DG box is the most likely to include texts and translations, but I’m just guessing.
I don’t know about the Naxos box.

MAJOR WORKS:
I don’t yet know the performer’s identities on Naxos.
I still haven’t uncovered the contents of CDs 34-80 in the Warner box. For some works I made an educated guess (indicated by ????????????)

SYMPHONIES:
--- DG complete: Gardiner, Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique (period instruments)
--- DG complete: Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic (1962) BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- WA complete: Harnoncourt, Chamber Orchestra of Europe
--- DG: 23 recordings by 14 conductors: Abbado, Bernstein, Bohm, Chailly, Fricsay, Furtwangler (mono), Giulini, Karajan (1976), Carlos Kleiber, Erich Kleiber (mono), Monteux, Nelsons, Scherchen (mono), Schmidt-Isserstedt
--- DG: Symphonies 4 & 7: Carlos Kleiber, Amsterdam Concertgebouw DVD VIDEO
OVERTURES:
--- DG complete: conducted by Abbado, Busch (mono), Chailly, Fricsay, Furtwangler (mono), Gardiner (period instruments), Klemperer (mono), Szell
--- WA:
CREATURES OF PROMETHEUS:
--- DG: Orpheus Chamber Orchestra
--- WA: Harnoncourt
EGMONT INCIDENTAL MUSIC:
--- DG: Abbado
--- WA:
RUINS OF ATHENS INCIDENTAL MUSIC:
--- DG: Klee
--- WA:
WELLINGTON’S VICTORY:
--- DG: Karajan
--- WA:
GROSSE FUGUE (orchestra):
--- DG: Furtwangler (mono)
MASS Op.86:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments)
--- WA: Giulini ???????????????????????????????
MISSA SOLEMNIS:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments) - and - Karajan (1966)
--- WA: Klemperer
CHRIST ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES:
--- DG: Klee
--- WA:
FIDELIO:
--- DG: Abbado
--- DG: Bernstein DVD VIDEO
--- WA: Klemperer
LEONORE:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments)
--- WA:

CONCERTI (5) for PIANO:
--- DG complete: 15 recordings by 10 pianists: Argerich, Arrau, Brendel, Buchbinder, A. Fischer, Gulda, Kempff, Levin (period instruments), Pollini, Zimerman
--- WA complete: Schiff/Haitink
CONCERTO for VIOLIN:
--- DG: four recordings: Mutter/Karajan - Repin/Muti - Schneiderhan/Jochum - Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
--- WA: Perlman/Giulini
CONCERTO for VIOLIN arranged for PIANO:
--- DG: Barenboim, piano & cond.
--- WA: Duchable/Menuhin
CONCERTO for PIANO, VIOLIN, CELLO:
--- DG: Chung Trio/Chung cond.
--- WA: Barenboim piano & cond, Perlman, Ma
FANTASY FOR PIANO, CHORUS & ORCHESTRA:
--- DG: Levin/Gardiner (period instruments) - and - Pollini/Abbado
--- WA: Aimard/Harnoncourt
ROMANCES (2) for VIOLIN & ORCHESTRA:
--- DG: Mutter/Masur - and - Zehetmair/Bruggen in Romance No.2 only (period instruments)
--- WA: Perlman/BarenboiM

PIANO SONATAS:
--- DG complete: Wilhelm Kempff BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- DG: 57 recordings by 23 pianists: Arrau, Ashkenazy, Backhaus, Brendel, Freire, Gilels, Grimaud, Gulda, Haskil (mono), Kempff (mono), Kissin, Kocsis, Kovacevich, Lupu, Michelangeli, Perahia, Pogorelich, Pollini, Richter, Rubin (fortepiano), Schnabel (mono), Serkin, Uchida
--- WA complete: Stephen Kovacevich
VIOLIN SONATAS:
--- DG: Kremer/Argerich (1-4) - Perlman/Ashkenazy (5,6), - Mutter/Orkis (7,9) - Dumay/Pires (8-10) - Menuhin/Kempff (variations etc.)
--- WA: Capucon/Braley
CELLO SONATAS:
--- DG complete: Maisky/Argerich
--- DG: Fournier/Kempff (3 & 5)
--- WA complete: Starker/Buchbinder ???????????????????

PIANO TRIOS:
--- DG: complete: Beaux Arts Trio - Gilels/Kogan/Rostropovich (mono) & Previn/Mullova/Schiff (Archduke Trio) - Kempff/Szeryng/Fournier (variations etc.)
--- WA: Barenboim/Zukerman/DuPre ????????????????????????????
STRING TRIOS:
--- DG complete: Mutter/Giuranna/Rostropovich
--- WA complete: Perlman/Zukerman/Harrell
STRING QUARTETS:
--- DG complete: Amadeus Quartet BLU-RAY AUDIO
--- DG complete: Emerson Quartet (early & middle quartets) - Takacs Quartet & Hagen Quartet (late quartets)
--- DG: assorted quartets by Busch Quartet (mono), Hollywood Quartet (mono), Lindsay Quartet, Quartetto Italiano
--- WA complete: Artemis Quartet (they did not record the revised finale to Op.130 - a different recording will be used)
John Fowler
2019-09-14 17:22:03 UTC
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COMPLETE BEETHOVEN = NAXOS vs DG vs. WARNER (updated September 14)

Naxos = 90 CDs = 100 Euros
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/ludwig-van-beethoven-beethoven-complete-edition/hnum/9449475
DG = 102 CDs (many duplications) = 240 Euros (+ 16 historical CDs + 3 Blu-ray Audio discs + 2 DVDs)
https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Beethoven-1770-1827_000000000034571/item_Beethoven-The-New-Complete-Edition-118CD-2DVD-3blu-ray-Audio-Limited_10112427
Warner = 80 CDs = 100 Euros
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07X7D9W6N/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

The DG box (November 8) is padded out with multiple performances of the major works. Five different performances of Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony alone: Fricsay, Bernstein, Gardiner, and Karajan (1962 and 1974).
The DG box costs more than Naxos and Warner combined.
Based on past history and price, the DG box is the most likely to include texts and translations, but that’s just a just guess.

The Warner box (November 29) is modelled on that label’s Berlioz and Debussy boxes, which means it comes with an extremely attractive booklet, CDs in jackets with period paintings on the front, but no texts or translations for vocal works.

The Naxos box (October 25) is still a mystery.
One photo of the Naxos box shows what looks like a CD-ROM in a separate sleeve.
If it has texts for the vocal works, I hope Naxos remembered the English translations.

MAJOR WORKS:
Naxos has not yet identified the performers.
Warner has only identified the performers on CDs 1-33.
For some works I made an educated guess (indicated by ?????)

SYMPHONIES:
--- DG complete: Gardiner, Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique (period instruments)
--- DG complete: Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic - 1962 (BLU-RAY AUDIO)
--- DG bonus: Symphonies 4 & 7: Carlos Kleiber, Amsterdam Concertgebouw (DVD VIDEO)
--- DG bonus: 23 recordings by 14 conductors: Abbado, Bernstein, Bohm, Chailly, Fricsay, Furtwangler (mono), Giulini, Karajan (1976), Carlos Kleiber, Erich Kleiber (mono), Monteux, Nelsons, Scherchen (mono), Schmidt-Isserstedt
--- WA complete: Harnoncourt, Chamber Orchestra of Europe
--- NX complete:
OVERTURES:
--- DG complete: conducted by Abbado, Busch (mono), Chailly, Fricsay, Furtwangler (mono), Gardiner (period instruments), Klee, Klemperer (mono), Szell
--- WA complete:
--- NX complete:
CREATURES OF PROMETHEUS:
--- DG: Orpheus Chamber Orchestra
--- WA: Harnoncourt
--- NX: Segerstam ?????
EGMONT INCIDENTAL MUSIC:
--- DG: Abbado
--- WA:
--- NX:
RUINS OF ATHENS INCIDENTAL MUSIC:
--- DG: Klee
--- WA:
--- NX:
WELLINGTON’S VICTORY:
--- DG: Karajan
--- WA:
--- NX:
GROSSE FUGUE (orchestra):
--- DG: Furtwangler (mono)
--- WA:
--- NX:
MASS Op.86:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments)
--- WA: Giulini ?????
--- NX:
MISSA SOLEMNIS:
--- DG: Karajan (1966) - and - Gardiner (period instruments)
--- WA: Klemperer
--- NX:
CHRIST ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES:
--- DG: Klee
--- WA:
--- NX:
FIDELIO:
--- DG: Abbado - and - Bernstein (DVD VIDEO)
--- WA: Klemperer
--- NX:
LEONORE:
--- DG: Gardiner (period instruments)
--- WA:
--- NX:

CONCERTI (5) for PIANO:
--- DG complete: 15 recordings by 10 pianists: Argerich, Arrau, Brendel, Buchbinder, A. Fischer, Gulda, Kempff, Levin (period instruments), Pollini, Zimerman
--- WA complete: Schiff/Haitink
--- NX:
CONCERTO for VIOLIN:
--- DG: four recordings: Mutter/Karajan -- Repin/Muti -- Schneiderhan/Jochum -- Zehetmair/Bruggen (period instruments)
--- WA: Perlman/Giulini
--- NX:
CONCERTO for VIOLIN arranged for PIANO:
--- DG: Barenboim, piano & cond.
--- WA: Duchable/Menuhin
--- NX:
CONCERTO for PIANO, VIOLIN, CELLO:
--- DG: Chung Trio/Chung cond.
--- WA: Barenboim piano & cond, Perlman, Ma
--- NX:
FANTASY FOR PIANO, CHORUS & ORCHESTRA:
--- DG: Levin/Gardiner (period instruments) - and - Pollini/Abbado
--- WA: Aimard/Harnoncourt
--- NX:
ROMANCES (2) for VIOLIN & ORCHESTRA:
--- DG: Mutter/Masur - and - Zehetmair/Bruggen in Romance No.2 only (period instruments)
--- WA: Perlman/Barenboim
--- NX:

PIANO SONATAS:
--- DG complete: Wilhelm Kempff (BLU-RAY AUDIO)
--- DG bonus: 57 recordings by 23 pianists: Arrau, Ashkenazy, Backhaus, Brendel, Freire, Gilels, Grimaud, Gulda, Haskil (mono), Kempff (mono), Kissin, Kocsis, Kovacevich, Lupu, Michelangeli, Perahia, Pogorelich, Pollini, Richter, Rubin (fortepiano), Schnabel (mono), Serkin, Uchida
--- WA complete: Stephen Kovacevich
--- NX complete:
CELLO SONATAS:
--- DG complete: Maisky/Argerich
--- DG bonus: Fournier/Kempff (3 & 5)
--- WA complete: Starker/Buchbinder ?????
--- NX complete:
VIOLIN SONATAS:
--- DG complete: Kremer/Argerich (1-4) -- Perlman/Ashkenazy (5,6), -- Mutter/Orkis (7,9) -- Dumay/Pires (8-10) -- Menuhin/Kempff (variations etc.)
--- WA complete: Capucon/Braley
--- NX complete:

PIANO TRIOS:
--- DG complete: Beaux Arts Trio - Gilels/Kogan/Rostropovich (mono) & Previn/Mullova/Schiff (Archduke Trio) - Kempff/Szeryng/Fournier (variations etc.)
--- WA complete: Barenboim/Zukerman/DuPre ?????
--- NX complete:
STRING TRIOS:
--- DG complete: Mutter/Giuranna/Rostropovich
--- WA complete: Perlman/Zukerman/Harrell
--- NX complete:
STRING QUARTETS:
--- DG complete: Amadeus Quartet (BLU-RAY AUDIO)
--- DG bonus: Emerson Quartet (early & middle quartets)
--- DG bonus: Takacs Quartet & Hagen Quartet (late quartets)
--- DG bonus: assorted quartets by Busch Quartet (mono), Hollywood Quartet (mono), Lindsay Quartet, Quartetto Italiano
--- WA complete: Artemis Quartet (Artemis did not record the revised finale to Op.130 - a different recording will be used)
--- NX complete:
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