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M***@here.org
2014-07-30 08:46:59 UTC
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2014-07-30 20:18:29 UTC
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2014-07-30 21:29:38 UTC
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According to Michael Kennedy's bio of Boult, the only time he conducted 'The Planets' in Boston was in 1946. Is this that performance?
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2014-07-30 23:31:39 UTC
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i dont know but sure would like to know
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2014-07-31 11:37:31 UTC
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Me too. Click the link and you get a big panel with 30 entries, all designated "mp3" over on the right. So what does one do to play them?
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2014-07-31 17:52:02 UTC
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Me too. Click the link and you get a big panel with 30 entries, all designated "mp3" over on the right. So what does one do to play them?
I believe the entries are all posts in the newsgroup a.b.sounds.mp3.classical, each one containing a bit of the larger file. Selecting them and clicking on "Create nzb" will create an nzb file on your hard drive (assuming of course that you're subscribed to newsgroups in some way).

NZB files are analogous to zip files and need to be unpacked using the appropriate program. More on nzb files (and a bit else) here:

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It would nice if some kind person with a newsgroup sub would dl these files and post them in a more generally accessible way.

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Matthew B. Tepper
2014-07-31 19:47:53 UTC
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How does one use this?
i dont know but sure would like to know
Me too. Click the link and you get a big panel with 30 entries, all
designated "mp3" over on the right. So what does one do to play them?
I believe the entries are all posts in the newsgroup
a.b.sounds.mp3.classical, each one containing a bit of the larger file.
Selecting them and clicking on "Create nzb" will create an nzb file on
your hard drive (assuming of course that you're subscribed to newsgroups
in some way).
NZB files are analogous to zip files and need to be unpacked using the
http://www.techsono.com/usenet/faq/nzb
It would nice if some kind person with a newsgroup sub would dl these
files and post them in a more generally accessible way.
Rich
Maybe I'll try (in my "copious spare time"; whoever it was who said I had
"disappeared into marriage" is, happily, correct). Might as well get some
use out of this subscription.
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Steve de Mena
2014-08-01 05:06:26 UTC
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I believe the entries are all posts in the newsgroup a.b.sounds.mp3.classical, each one containing a bit of the larger file. Selecting them and clicking on "Create nzb" will create an nzb file on your hard drive (assuming of course that you're subscribed to newsgroups in some way).
NZB files are nor analogous to ZIP files. They're simply a text file
list (XML format) of every USENET post that contains contents of the
binary file(s) you need to re-assemble them into a usable format.
There's a kind of steep learning curve to all this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB

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2014-07-30 23:30:00 UTC
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yes it is the 1946 performance
Steve de Mena
2014-08-01 05:40:23 UTC
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Here you go:

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Easily downloadable for the next 14 days. Click on "Save All"

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garcia
2014-08-01 07:47:44 UTC
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Thanks Steve,

Much appreciated
Kerrison
2014-08-01 08:25:53 UTC
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Thanks Steve,
Much appreciated
Ditto indeed! ... I assume this is the earliest-but-one surviving performance of 'The Planets' by an American orchestra, having been preceded by the Stokowski / NBC SO broadcast of 1943 (Cala CACD0526). Is the Boult also taken off an issued CD and was it played in Symphony Hall or at Tanglewood?
ways
2014-08-01 13:14:17 UTC
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thanks and here is a link to that performance

http://www.koussevitzky.com/Html/BSO_1946.html
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2014-08-01 17:43:12 UTC
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thanks and here is a link to that performance
http://www.koussevitzky.com/Html/BSO_1946.html
Fascinating list. Any idea how many of these broadcasts have survived?

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2014-08-01 17:41:55 UTC
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Thanks Steve,
Much appreciated
Thanks from me too

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hiker_rs
2014-08-01 20:03:18 UTC
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Steve
Thanks, Steve!

-Rich
Matthew B. Tepper
2014-08-01 20:12:53 UTC
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Thank you! Much easier, indeed.
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Gerry
2014-08-02 13:10:35 UTC
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Many thanks, Steve!
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2014-08-10 10:21:57 UTC
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By the way, of Boult's studio recordings, does any one stand out over the others?:

Sir Adrian Boult/BBC SO (1945, EMI) [JW]
Sir Adrian Boult/London PO (1979, EMI) [SG]
Sir Adrian Boult/Vienna State O (Millennium Classics) [RMo]
Sir Adrian Boult/New PO (EMI, 1966) [MG]
Kerrison
2014-08-10 16:14:16 UTC
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Sir Adrian Boult/BBC SO (1945, EMI) [JW]
Sir Adrian Boult/London PO (1979, EMI) [SG]
Sir Adrian Boult/Vienna State O (Millennium Classics) [RMo]
Sir Adrian Boult/New PO (EMI, 1966) [MG]
Don't forget his 5th and quite unnecessary London Philharmonic recording of 1978. Even Boult asked EMI why they wanted another one, since there was nothing intrinsically wrong with the New Philharmonia version.
Precious Roy
2014-08-10 17:10:03 UTC
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One does but it's rather rare: the 1954 Nixa recording with a disguised LPO. Someone may have uploaded a great transfer from LP however.
Matthew B. Tepper
2014-08-11 19:35:55 UTC
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One does but it's rather rare: the 1954 Nixa recording with a disguised
LPO. Someone may have uploaded a great transfer from LP however.
Nixa NIXCD 6013? Got that; recorded September 1953, actually.
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2014-08-10 17:10:14 UTC
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Sir Adrian Boult/BBC SO (1945, EMI) [JW]
Sir Adrian Boult/London PO (1979, EMI) [SG]
This should be 1978 I think. Many consider this one Boult's best.
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Sir Adrian Boult/Vienna State O (Millennium Classics) [RMo]
Recorded in 1959.
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Sir Adrian Boult/New PO (EMI, 1966) [MG]
Don't forget his 5th and quite unnecessary London Philharmonic recording of 1978. Even Boult asked EMI why they wanted another one, since there was nothing intrinsically wrong with the New Philharmonia version.
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2014-08-10 17:23:01 UTC
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Sir Adrian Boult/BBC SO (1945, EMI) [JW]
Sir Adrian Boult/London PO (1979, EMI) [SG]
This should be 1978 I think. Many consider this one Boult's best.
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Sir Adrian Boult/Vienna State O (Millennium Classics) [RMo]
Recorded in 1959.
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Sir Adrian Boult/New PO (EMI, 1966) [MG]
Don't forget his 5th and quite unnecessary London Philharmonic recording of 1978. Even Boult asked EMI why they wanted another one, since there was nothing intrinsically wrong with the New Philharmonia version.
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I have always preferred the 1966 NPO recording to the later one. That one should have been quad to be an improvement.
Randy Lane
2014-08-11 20:10:21 UTC
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There was a quad SACD from Esoteric. Quite expensive and had to order from Japan. Users on an SACD forum that bought it rave about it.
Matthew B. Tepper
2014-08-11 19:35:55 UTC
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Don't forget his 5th and quite unnecessary London Philharmonic recording
of 1978. Even Boult asked EMI why they wanted another one, since there
was nothing intrinsically wrong with the New Philharmonia version.
I wouldn't say "unnecessary"; its "Saturn" gets it exactly right, in a way
that all his previous recordings merely approached. IMAO, of course.
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Mark Obert-Thorn
2014-08-12 15:35:11 UTC
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Don't forget his 5th and quite unnecessary London Philharmonic recording of 1978. Even Boult asked EMI why they wanted another one, since there was nothing intrinsically wrong with the New Philharmonia version.
Reportedly, it was an early digital recording, although only analog versions have been released.

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2014-08-11 09:28:21 UTC
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Sir Adrian Boult/BBC SO (1945, EMI) [JW]
Sir Adrian Boult/London PO (1979, EMI) [SG]
Sir Adrian Boult/Vienna State O (Millennium Classics) [RMo]
Sir Adrian Boult/New PO (EMI, 1966) [MG]
Didn't the following come out in the 1950's in mono?:

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2014-08-11 18:15:07 UTC
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http://www.discogs.com/Holst-Sir-Adrian-Boult-Vienna-State-Opera-Orchestra-And-Vienna-Academy-Chorus-The-Planets-Op-32/release/1754917
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2014-08-11 18:30:54 UTC
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http://www.discogs.com/Holst-Sir-Adrian-Boult-Vienna-State-Opera-Orchestra-And-Vienna-Academy-Chorus-The-Planets-Op-32/release/1754917
From John Hunt's "Music Knights" (1995) Boult discography:
(1) BBC SO (1945) HMV 78s + EMI LP + CD
(2) LPO (1953) Nixa + Pye
(3) Vienna State Opera Orchestra (1959) Westminster + Whitehall
(4) NPO (1966) EMI
(5) LPO (1978) EMI
Frank Berger
2014-08-11 21:35:33 UTC
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JREiDUxeL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
I think that's the same as the Nixa.
Correct. It was a joint Nixa/Westminster production.

Here's the Nixa LP cover:

http://tinyurl.com/k6zr3p7

This is the 1959 Westminster CD cover:

http://www.amazon.com/Holst-The-Planets-Gustav/dp/B00005OLDO

and best of all, the 1959 Westminster LP cover:

http://tinyurl.com/pz9fosj



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2014-08-11 23:01:09 UTC
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JREiDUxeL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
I think that's the same as the Nixa.
Correct. It was a joint Nixa/Westminster production.
http://tinyurl.com/k6zr3p7
http://www.amazon.com/Holst-The-Planets-Gustav/dp/B00005OLDO
http://tinyurl.com/pz9fosj
That's the one we had in my house when I was a child!

Stephen
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2014-08-12 00:16:08 UTC
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JREiDUxeL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
I think that's the same as the Nixa.
Correct. It was a joint Nixa/Westminster production.
http://tinyurl.com/k6zr3p7
http://www.amazon.com/Holst-The-Planets-Gustav/dp/B00005OLDO
http://tinyurl.com/pz9fosj
That's the one we had in my house when I was a child!
Stephen
Me too. I also remember a Julian Bream album with, I think, a Picasso
cover.

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2014-08-12 05:28:56 UTC
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Me too. I also remember a Julian Bream album with, I think, a Picasso
cover.
I remember this version of the Boult / Planets 'Westminster' LP cover (picture 6 of 22) ...

http://www.classicfm.com/discover/music/worst-classical-album-covers-ever/holst-planets/

And I still have the "Best of Brahms" LP simply for the cover (2 fried eggs and 2 rashers of bacon) ... the 4th one down in this illustrated list of horrors ...

http://lpcoverlover.com/category/classical/
m***@ameritech.net
2014-08-13 01:31:20 UTC
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That is not the 1959 cover, but the early 1970s cover from the Westminster Gold reissue series. The original cover was less campy:

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I think that's the same as the Nixa.
Correct. It was a joint Nixa/Westminster production.
http://tinyurl.com/k6zr3p7
http://www.amazon.com/Holst-The-Planets-Gustav/dp/B00005OLDO
http://tinyurl.com/pz9fosj
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That's
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2014-08-13 02:20:34 UTC
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Top posting because you did:

Thanks for the correction.
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JREiDUxeL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
I think that's the same as the Nixa.
Correct. It was a joint Nixa/Westminster production.
http://tinyurl.com/k6zr3p7
http://www.amazon.com/Holst-The-Planets-Gustav/dp/B00005OLDO
http://tinyurl.com/pz9fosj
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2014-08-13 16:45:39 UTC
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Thanks for the correction.
You're welcome, and sorry about the top post hiccup
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2014-08-16 02:00:03 UTC
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http://www.amazon.com/Holst-The-Planets-Gustav/dp/B00005OLDO
A quibble over a typo- everybody has similar fingers of clay.
A bit early for a CD isn't it?
M***@here.org
2014-08-16 08:53:27 UTC
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someones nit picking
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2014-08-17 01:54:39 UTC
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http://www.amazon.com/Holst-The-Planets-Gustav/dp/B00005OLDO
A quibble over a typo- everybody has similar fingers of clay.
A bit early for a CD isn't it?
I meant the CD of the 1959 performance.

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2020-11-10 04:00:11 UTC
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Last month, that performance was uploaded on Youtube:

Holst: "The Planets" Sir Adrian Boult/Boston S.O., 1946 live restored
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2020-11-10 22:35:12 UTC
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Holst: "The Planets" Sir Adrian Boult/Boston S.O., 1946 live restored
Why not post the link? ...



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