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Randy Lane
2014-12-09 12:59:24 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'll likely order the corresponding 4cd Deutsche Grammophon Legacy set soon also:

http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65

A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly be a nice add on to this collection.

And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).

He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Orchman
2014-12-09 13:34:16 UTC
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He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?>>
Yes - very...They are truly magnificent...some real classics -

Nielsen Sym #4, Helios Ov.
Bartok - Miraculous Mandarin
Hindemith - Noblissima Visione
Varese - Arcana
F. Martin - Cto for 7 Winds, perc
Ravel - Raps Esp, Alborado, etc; Daphnis & Chloe #2
Bizet - Sym - NA, TMK
Mennin - Sym #7

all highly recommended, top rung....

I'm sure I missed a few - there are some great archival recordings floating around as well -
Mahler Syms 3 [best finale I've ever heard],10
Britten - Peter Grimes 4 Sea Interludes
Dukas - Sorcer's App
Ruggles - Sun Treader
Christopher Webber
2014-12-09 14:08:56 UTC
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Dukas - Sorcer's App
I like the idea of Dukas pre-empting the smartphone revolution.
Bob Harper
2014-12-09 14:38:58 UTC
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He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?>>
Yes - very...They are truly magnificent...some real classics -
Nielsen Sym #4, Helios Ov.
Bartok - Miraculous Mandarin
Hindemith - Noblissima Visione
Varese - Arcana
F. Martin - Cto for 7 Winds, perc
Ravel - Raps Esp, Alborado, etc; Daphnis& Chloe #2
Bizet - Sym - NA, TMK
Mennin - Sym #7
all highly recommended, top rung....
I'm sure I missed a few - there are some great archival recordings floating around as well -
Mahler Syms 3 [best finale I've ever heard],10
Britten - Peter Grimes 4 Sea Interludes
Dukas - Sorcer's App
Ruggles - Sun Treader
Agree completely, with one caveat: the bad edit which left a five-second
gap between iii and iv in the Nielsen 4th must be corrected.

Bob Harper
Christopher Webber
2014-12-09 14:49:25 UTC
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Agree completely, with one caveat: the bad edit which left a five-second
gap between iii and iv in the Nielsen 4th must be corrected.
There's no gap in the RCA Classical Navigator issue of the
Martinon/Chicago 4th (1994, coupled with Previn/LSO 1st) but the most
exciting 'segue' we could wish for.

It was the LP which was really frustrating there. If they'd put 'Helios'
where it ought to have been, as an Overture, they wouldn't need to have
broken the symphony at that point.
Bob Harper
2014-12-09 19:08:06 UTC
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Agree completely, with one caveat: the bad edit which left a five-second
gap between iii and iv in the Nielsen 4th must be corrected.
There's no gap in the RCA Classical Navigator issue of the
Martinon/Chicago 4th (1994, coupled with Previn/LSO 1st) but the most
exciting 'segue' we could wish for.
It was the LP which was really frustrating there. If they'd put 'Helios'
where it ought to have been, as an Overture, they wouldn't need to have
broken the symphony at that point.
I don't think the Navigator series was released in the US--at least I
never saw it. This is the one I've got, the one with the offending gap:

http://www.amazon.com/Nielsen-Symphony-No-2-Temperments-Inextinguishable/dp/B000EHQ8BO

Note the "Original recording remastered" in the description. Hah!

Bob Harper
Orchman
2014-12-09 16:36:20 UTC
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On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 9:39:02 AM UTC-5, Bob Harper wrote:
<< Agree completely, with one caveat: the bad edit which left a five-second gap between iii and iv in the Nielsen 4th must be corrected.>

It's strange they never fixed that - it was the side-break on the original LP release...there's no reason to leave it in there. It's still the best version - a real knockout, all the way..
Christopher Webber
2014-12-09 17:20:51 UTC
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It's strange they never fixed that
They did. See my post.
Bob Harper
2014-12-09 19:11:25 UTC
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It's strange they never fixed that
They did. See my post.
No, the Navigator appeared before the 'Sony BMG Masterworks Classic
Library' edition which has the screwup. In any case, it should be fixed
for any future issue.

Bob Harper
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2014-12-09 20:01:15 UTC
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Free for download 320k from the ReDiscovery site.
http://www.rediscovery.us/conductors2.html

Jean Martinon / French National Radio Orchestra and Chorus / Vanzo (t), Berbie (ms), Cales (bar), Soyer (b), Andreozzi (t), Brossmann (bar), Soumagnas (b)
Berlioz: L'Enfance du Christ

ReDiscovery RD 178/179 - 1:34:15

Jean Martinon / Lamoureux Concerts Orchestra
Berlioz: Overtures: Roman Carnival, King Lear, Beatrice and Benedict, Corsair
Ernest Graf / Vienna State Opera Orchestra and Chamber Chorus
Berlioz: Funeral and Triumphal Symphony

ReDiscovery RD 107 - 66:45
Christopher Webber
2014-12-09 22:37:33 UTC
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No, the Navigator appeared before the 'Sony BMG Masterworks Classic
Library' edition which has the screwup.
How frustrating, then, that it got "unfixed" in a later edition!

Was the (excellent) Classical Navigator series, then, RCA Europe only?
This Nielsen issue is one of my favourites, together with a Julian Bream
Spanish compilation and a Mata/Nati Mistral Falla issue.

In fact the (good) Nielsen 4th edit on RCA Navigator can be purchased
for $3.98 on Amazon.com, I see:

http://www.amazon.com/Symphony-No-1-4/dp/B000026GJ7
Christopher Webber
2014-12-09 22:41:03 UTC
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In fact the (good) Nielsen 4th edit on RCA Navigator can be purchased
http://www.amazon.com/Symphony-No-1-4/dp/B000026GJ7
... or £2.63 on Amazon.co.uk:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nielsen-Symphonies-Nos-1-4/dp/B000026GJ7

In either case, a good bargain - for two outstandingly exciting, Nielsen
symphony performances.
Dave Cook
2014-12-11 05:35:32 UTC
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Agree completely, with one caveat: the bad edit which left a five-second
gap between iii and iv in the Nielsen 4th must be corrected.
I ripped mine to hard disk and then used Audacity to trim movement III from 10:18.6 to the end and trim the silence from the beginning of IV. That sounded about right to me.

Dave Cook
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2014-12-11 10:55:13 UTC
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Agree completely, with one caveat: the bad edit which left a five-second
gap between iii and iv in the Nielsen 4th must be corrected.
I ripped mine to hard disk and then used Audacity to trim movement III from 10:18.6 to the end and trim the silence from the beginning of IV. That sounded about right to me.
Dave Cook
That's what I did. And it gives me a backup copy for one of my all-time favorite records. I heard Martinon conduct the Chicago (Rite of Spring and Sessions Seventh, w. premiere). Some of his take on the Rite seems to have resurfaced on the Ozawa-CSO RCA recording.
Bob Harper
2014-12-11 15:39:47 UTC
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Agree completely, with one caveat: the bad edit which left a five-second
gap between iii and iv in the Nielsen 4th must be corrected.
I ripped mine to hard disk and then used Audacity to trim movement III from 10:18.6 to the end and trim the silence from the beginning of IV. That sounded about right to me.
Dave Cook
Exactly what I did (with Audacity). I checked the score and cut the gap
to the appropriate length. But the question remains: If I--not the most
technologically adept person--could do it, why not RCA?

Bob Harper
Frank Berger
2014-12-09 15:50:34 UTC
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He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?>>
Yes - very...They are truly magnificent...some real classics -
Nielsen Sym #4, Helios Ov.
Bartok - Miraculous Mandarin
Hindemith - Noblissima Visione
Varese - Arcana
F. Martin - Cto for 7 Winds, perc
Ravel - Raps Esp, Alborado, etc; Daphnis & Chloe #2
Bizet - Sym - NA, TMK
Mennin - Sym #7
Checked to verify I had all the above. Found I was missing the Mennin.
Since rectified.
Post by Orchman
all highly recommended, top rung....
I'm sure I missed a few - there are some great archival recordings floating around as well -
Mahler Syms 3 [best finale I've ever heard],10
#3 is in one of the CSO commemorative boxes.
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Britten - Peter Grimes 4 Sea Interlude
Dukas - Sorcer's App
Ruggles - Sun Treader
The above 3 are in the 1997 CSO "From the Archives" set.
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2014-12-09 16:27:34 UTC
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He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?>>
Yes - very...They are truly magnificent...some real classics -
Nielsen Sym #4, Helios Ov.
Bartok - Miraculous Mandarin
Hindemith - Noblissima Visione
Varese - Arcana
F. Martin - Cto for 7 Winds, perc
Ravel - Raps Esp, Alborado, etc; Daphnis & Chloe #2
Bizet - Sym - NA, TMK
Mennin - Sym #7
all highly recommended, top rung....
I'm sure I missed a few - there are some great archival recordings floating around as well -
Mahler Syms 3 [best finale I've ever heard],10
Britten - Peter Grimes 4 Sea Interludes
Dukas - Sorcer's App
Ruggles - Sun Treader
The Chicago recordings also include beautifully played traversals of the two Bizet L'Arlesienne Suites and a crackling performance of the Lalo "Le Roi d'Ys" Overture, with Bud Herseth nailing those fast trumpet triplets near the end. My LP of all this is rounded out with Steven Staryck playing the solos in the Massenet "Meditation." I haven't checked to see if this has made it to CD.

Mark
Frank Berger
2014-12-09 16:59:38 UTC
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He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?>>
Yes - very...They are truly magnificent...some real classics -
Nielsen Sym #4, Helios Ov.
Bartok - Miraculous Mandarin
Hindemith - Noblissima Visione
Varese - Arcana
F. Martin - Cto for 7 Winds, perc
Ravel - Raps Esp, Alborado, etc; Daphnis & Chloe #2
Bizet - Sym - NA, TMK
Mennin - Sym #7
all highly recommended, top rung....
I'm sure I missed a few - there are some great archival recordings floating around as well -
Mahler Syms 3 [best finale I've ever heard],10
Britten - Peter Grimes 4 Sea Interludes
Dukas - Sorcer's App
Ruggles - Sun Treader
The Chicago recordings also include beautifully played traversals of the two Bizet L'Arlesienne Suites and a crackling performance of the Lalo "Le Roi d'Ys" Overture, with Bud Herseth nailing those fast trumpet triplets near the end. My LP of all this is rounded out with Steven Staryck playing the solos in the Massenet "Meditation." I haven't checked to see if this has made it to CD.
Mark
Released in Japan by Tower TWCL 1008.

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tomdeacon
2014-12-09 18:00:31 UTC
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He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do
not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?>>
Yes - very...They are truly magnificent...some real classics -
Nielsen Sym #4, Helios Ov.
Bartok - Miraculous Mandarin
Hindemith - Noblissima Visione
Varese - Arcana
F. Martin - Cto for 7 Winds, perc
Ravel - Raps Esp, Alborado, etc; Daphnis & Chloe #2
Bizet - Sym - NA, TMK
Mennin - Sym #7
all highly recommended, top rung....
I'm sure I missed a few - there are some great archival recordings
floating around as well -
Mahler Syms 3 [best finale I've ever heard],10
Britten - Peter Grimes 4 Sea Interludes
Dukas - Sorcer's App
Ruggles - Sun Treader
The Chicago recordings also include beautifully played traversals of the
two Bizet L'Arlesienne Suites and a crackling performance of the Lalo "Le
Roi d'Ys" Overture, with Bud Herseth nailing those fast trumpet triplets
near the end. My LP of all this is rounded out with Steven Staryck
playing the solos in the Massenet "Meditation." I haven't checked to see
if this has made it to CD.
I do believe that I have it all on CD, Mark.
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tomdeacon
2014-12-09 13:43:15 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly
be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete
Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Yes, of course. The Japanese have issued them all. Some few reissued by RCA
as well domestically.

I am surprised that you are not aware that Decca issued all of Jean
Martinon's recordings from 1951-1960 in 2006 in a cap-box as part of their
Original Masters series: 475 7209 (the print is so tiny I am unsure of the
number!). I believe that the entire set is available for download, but you
should be abel to locate a used copy fairly easily.
--
TD
Randy Lane
2014-12-09 14:07:36 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly
be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete
Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Yes, of course. The Japanese have issued them all. Some few reissued by RCA
as well domestically.
I am surprised that you are not aware that Decca issued all of Jean
Martinon's recordings from 1951-1960 in 2006 in a cap-box as part of their
Original Masters series: 475 7209 (the print is so tiny I am unsure of the
number!). I believe that the entire set is available for download, but you
should be abel to locate a used copy fairly easily.
--
TD
I am aware of the Original Masters set.
And the outrageous prices commanded for used copies is exactly why I would like to see Eloquence issue a Decca Legacy set(s) to go along with their Philips and DG sets.
Frank Berger
2014-12-09 14:52:58 UTC
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Post by Randy Lane
Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly
be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete
Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Yes, of course. The Japanese have issued them all. Some few reissued by RCA
as well domestically.
I am surprised that you are not aware that Decca issued all of Jean
Martinon's recordings from 1951-1960 in 2006 in a cap-box as part of their
Original Masters series: 475 7209 (the print is so tiny I am unsure of the
number!). I believe that the entire set is available for download, but you
should be abel to locate a used copy fairly easily.
--
TD
I am aware of the Original Masters set.
And the outrageous prices commanded for used copies is exactly why I would like to see Eloquence issue a Decca Legacy set(s) to go along with their Philips and DG sets.
Somehow I lost my OM box. It took a long time to find a replacement in
the used market, and I paid dearly for it.

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Frank Berger
2014-12-16 01:11:39 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly
be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete
Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Yes, of course. The Japanese have issued them all. Some few reissued by RCA
as well domestically.
I am surprised that you are not aware that Decca issued all of Jean
Martinon's recordings from 1951-1960 in 2006 in a cap-box as part of their
Original Masters series: 475 7209 (the print is so tiny I am unsure of the
number!). I believe that the entire set is available for download, but you
should be abel to locate a used copy fairly easily.
--
TD
I am aware of the Original Masters set.
And the outrageous prices commanded for used copies is exactly why I
would like to see Eloquence issue a Decca Legacy set(s) to go along
with their Philips and DG sets.
Somehow I lost my OM box. It took a long time to find a replacement in
the used market, and I paid dearly for it.
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There is one for sale on e-bay right now. $56.99 buys it now. I paid more.

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Frank Berger
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly
be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete
Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Yes, of course. The Japanese have issued them all. Some few reissued by RCA
as well domestically.
I am surprised that you are not aware that Decca issued all of Jean
Martinon's recordings from 1951-1960 in 2006 in a cap-box as part of their
Original Masters series: 475 7209 (the print is so tiny I am unsure of the
number!). I believe that the entire set is available for download, but you
should be abel to locate a used copy fairly easily.
--
TD
I am aware of the Original Masters set.
And the outrageous prices commanded for used copies is exactly why I
would like to see Eloquence issue a Decca Legacy set(s) to go along
with their Philips and DG sets.
Somehow I lost my OM box. It took a long time to find a replacement in
the used market, and I paid dearly for it.
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OMG, there are actually 3, one is buy it now for only $26.96. Possibly
people are selling them off in anticipation of buying the new Decca box.

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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly
be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete
Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Yes, of course. The Japanese have issued them all. Some few reissued by RCA
as well domestically.
I am surprised that you are not aware that Decca issued all of Jean
Martinon's recordings from 1951-1960 in 2006 in a cap-box as part of their
Original Masters series: 475 7209 (the print is so tiny I am unsure of the
number!). I believe that the entire set is available for download, but you
should be abel to locate a used copy fairly easily.
--
TD
I am aware of the Original Masters set.
And the outrageous prices commanded for used copies is exactly why I
would like to see Eloquence issue a Decca Legacy set(s) to go along
with their Philips and DG sets.
Somehow I lost my OM box. It took a long time to find a replacement in
the used market, and I paid dearly for it.
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There is one for sale on e-bay right now. $56.99 buys it now. I paid more.
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OMG, there are actually 3, one is buy it now for only $26.96. Possibly
people are selling them off in anticipation of buying the new Decca box.
Which will be identical?
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Randy Lane
2014-12-16 12:20:45 UTC
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I don't see any copies of the Original Mastrrs box (Jean Martinon: Complete Decca Recordings 1951 - 1960) on eBay.com
Frank Berger
2014-12-16 13:50:22 UTC
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I don't see any copies of the Original Mastrrs box (Jean Martinon: Complete Decca Recordings 1951 - 1960) on eBay.com
Possibly because they sold right away?

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wade
2014-12-16 14:26:07 UTC
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I don't see any copies of the Original Mastrrs box (Jean Martinon: Complete Decca Recordings 1951 - 1960) on eBay.com
sounds to me that somebody had one they wanted to get rid of and the others were marked "match the lowest bid" so they were automatically repriced by Amazon to that low value. Then yes the vultures came in and grabbed them either for their own use or for possible resale at a higher price once the other low priced items were gone.
r***@gmail.com
2014-12-09 18:03:46 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Warner could also include a good many EMI recordings, thought they might be duplicate purchases for many of us: Berlioz, Prokofiev . . .
Lawrence Chalmers
2014-12-09 21:51:18 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The Roussel Bacchus et Ariane suite #2 with the CSO is outstanding. It was released privately but All the CSO reordings would make a really desirable release. (And so would those Gould/CSO recordings....)
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http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Frank Berger
2014-12-09 23:08:01 UTC
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Post by Randy Lane
Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete
Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'll likely order the corresponding 4cd Deutsche Grammophon Legacy set
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The Roussel Bacchus et Ariane suite #2 with the CSO is outstanding.
It was released privately
(Haydn House)

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John Wiser
2014-12-09 23:28:27 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The Roussel Bacchus et Ariane suite #2 with the CSO is outstanding.
It was released privately
(Haydn House)
(Utilitarian transfers from LP, I'd avoid 'em IIWY)

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Orchman
2014-12-09 23:09:35 UTC
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The Roussel Bacchus et Ariane suite #2 with the CSO is outstanding. It was released privately but All the CSO reordings would make a really desirable release. (And so would those Gould/CSO recordings....)>>
Oh, yes, the Roussel - really outstanding..some of the Gould have been released - Nielsen #2, Ives....but I've never seen the excellent Copland "Dance" Symphony, Gould Spirituals released on CD...too bad they are terrific.
RiRiIII
2014-12-11 11:45:07 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Martinon's complete CSO recs on 10 cds will be issued in March 2015:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00PCCWXPG/ref=gno_cart_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Alex
tomdeacon
2014-12-11 11:57:32 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly
be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete
Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00PCCWXPG/ref=gno_cart_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid£P5ROKL5A1OLE
Good news. Let's hope they have remastered these recordings in Germany.
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Orchman
2014-12-11 16:36:05 UTC
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00PCCWXPG/ref=gno_cart_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE> Alex
Thanx!! That's awesome...I just pre-ordered it. I have alot of them already, but some have been NA for years....the only throw-away is the Benny Goodman attempt at Nielsen Clar Cto...
Randy Lane
2014-12-11 17:24:22 UTC
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00PCCWXPG/ref=gno_cart_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE> Alex
Thanx!! That's awesome...I just pre-ordered it.
Agreed.
Great news.
On my radar.
g***@gmail.com
2014-12-17 01:43:12 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Any Youtube recommendations?
tomdeacon
2014-12-17 12:51:44 UTC
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Post by Randy Lane
Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly
be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete
Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Any Youtube recommendations?
Why don't you just listen for yourself and let us know what you've
discovered.
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John Wiser
2014-12-17 19:42:01 UTC
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Any Youtube recommendations?
Why don't you just listen for yourself and let us know what you've
discovered.
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jdw
graham
2014-12-17 19:45:48 UTC
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Any Youtube recommendations?
Why don't you just listen for yourself and let us know what you've
discovered.
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jdw
Unless he promises a two-word header!
Graham
g***@gmail.com
2018-12-02 16:24:38 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OW8EPI4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Legacy-Jean-Martinon/dp/B00OW8EHQO/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1QDTT5HPM9CJNFVFHJ65
A Decca Legacy box, probably more around 6 cds or more, would certainly be a nice add on to this collection.
And perhaps Warner could jump on the bandwagon and put out a complete Erato set (those great Roussel recordings!).
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
(Recent Youtube upload):

Debussy's "Images pour orchestre" - LIVE, 1967
Ed Presson
2018-12-03 00:25:18 UTC
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Received a recent Aussie Eloquence 3 CD set with the complete Philips
recordings of Jean Martinon (early 1950s)
He made a few recordings for RCA with the Chicago Symphony, but I do not
believe I have ever heard any of them (not counting the RCA/Decca
collaborations, such as the great Borodin #2 and Shosty #1 - those are
well known and fabulous). Anyone familiar with those CSO recordings?
Yes, I have the box set of all of the RCA recordings Martinon made with the
CSO. He got very fine sound from the RCA engineers, and his performances
are consistently high quality. If you like his
conducting, the box is well worth collecting.

One note: years ago I read an article in which the writer reported that
Martinon exploited whatever virtuosity each orchestra could muster, and that
he delighted in taking full
advantage of the CSO. I heard him conduct the CSO on tour and I have never
been more bowled over by sheer power, color, and sonority. It was
memorable.

Ed Presson

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