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pmcdaw@comcast.net
2020-11-19 14:26:55 UTC
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The great Maria Yudina died 50 years ago today, November 19, 1970.
Treat yourself today to some of her unique artistry.
R.I.P.
MELMOTH
2020-11-19 14:45:43 UTC
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The great Maria Yudina died 50 years ago today, November 19, 1970.
Treat yourself today to some of her unique artistry.
R.I.P.
https://www.amazon.fr/Art-Maria-Yudina/dp/B07GTZK2CB/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=yudina&qid=1605797098&s=music&sr=1-4
dk
2020-11-19 18:36:26 UTC
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The great Maria Yudina died 50 years ago today, November 19, 1970.
Treat yourself today to some of her unique artistry.
R.I.P.
Keep in mind she was Stalin's favorite pianist for
her massacre of Mozart's Concerto no. 23 KV 488.

dk
MELMOTH
2020-11-20 00:08:10 UTC
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Keep in mind she was Stalin's favorite pianist for
her massacre of Mozart's Concerto no. 23 KV 488.
https://www.amazon.fr/Maria-Youdina-pianiste-d%C3%A9fia-Staline/dp/2846212651/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=maria+youdina&qid=1605830857&s=books&sr=1-2
r***@gmail.com
2020-11-22 13:10:02 UTC
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Keep in mind she was Stalin's favorite pianist for
her massacre of Mozart's Concerto no. 23 KV 488.
https://www.amazon.fr/Maria-Youdina-pianiste-d%C3%A9fia-Staline/dp/2846212651/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=maria+youdina&qid=1605830857&s=books&sr=1-2
There's a story behind that story. Stalin listened to the broadcast, and asked for the record they had played to be sent to him. It had been a live broadcast.
Stalin being who he was, everyone in the orchestra and Yudina was rounded up so that Stalin could have his record.
I'm not at all surprised that the record displayed a rather high tension in the playing. Nobody has any idea what the broadcast performance was like.
She was a religious person, and reportedly told Stalin when he called for her to meet in person that she would pray for him.
Frank Lekens
2020-11-22 16:34:16 UTC
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Keep in mind she was Stalin's favorite pianist for
her massacre of Mozart's Concerto no. 23 KV 488.
https://www.amazon.fr/Maria-Youdina-pianiste-d%C3%A9fia-Staline/dp/2846212651/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=maria+youdina&qid=1605830857&s=books&sr=1-2
There's a story behind that story. Stalin listened to the broadcast, and asked for the record they had played to be sent to him. It had been a live broadcast.
Stalin being who he was, everyone in the orchestra and Yudina was rounded up so that Stalin could have his record.
I'm not at all surprised that the record displayed a rather high tension in the playing. Nobody has any idea what the broadcast performance was like.
She was a religious person, and reportedly told Stalin when he called for her to meet in person that she would pray for him.
A well known anecdote, it was dramatized to good effect in the comedy
The Death of Stalin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Stalin
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Bob Harper
2020-11-23 06:01:59 UTC
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Keep in mind she was Stalin's favorite pianist for
her massacre of Mozart's Concerto no. 23 KV 488.
https://www.amazon.fr/Maria-Youdina-pianiste-d%C3%A9fia-Staline/dp/2846212651/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=maria+youdina&qid=1605830857&s=books&sr=1-2
There's a story behind that story. Stalin listened to the broadcast,
and asked for the record they had played to be sent to him. It had
been a live broadcast.
Stalin being who he was, everyone in the orchestra and Yudina was
rounded up so that Stalin could have his record.
I'm not at all surprised that the record displayed a rather high
tension in the playing. Nobody has any idea what the broadcast
performance was like.
She was a religious person, and reportedly told Stalin when he called
for her to meet in person that she would pray for him.
A well known anecdote, it was dramatized to good effect in the comedy
The Death of Stalin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Stalin
A brilliant movie!, Mockery is a very effective way to attack evil.

Bob Harper

Frank Berger
2020-11-20 03:04:24 UTC
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The great Maria Yudina died 50 years ago today, November 19, 1970.
Treat yourself today to some of her unique artistry.
R.I.P.
Keep in mind she was Stalin's favorite pianist for
her massacre of Mozart's Concerto no. 23 KV 488.
dk
Why should anyone care that she was Stalin's favorite
pianist? I wouldn't even care if Stalin was her favorite
world leader.
dk
2020-11-20 03:39:24 UTC
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The great Maria Yudina died 50 years ago today, November 19, 1970.
Treat yourself today to some of her unique artistry.
R.I.P.
Keep in mind she was Stalin's favorite pianist for
her massacre of Mozart's Concerto no. 23 KV 488.
Why should anyone care that she was Stalin's favorite
pianist? I wouldn't even care if Stalin was her favorite
world leader.
It shows in her playing -- for those who can hear. She
plays with a harsh percussive tone, and she stomps
the beats as if she were playing in a military band.

dk
Mandryka
2020-11-20 06:03:17 UTC
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The great Maria Yudina died 50 years ago today, November 19, 1970.
Treat yourself today to some of her unique artistry.
R.I.P.
Keep in mind she was Stalin's favorite pianist for
her massacre of Mozart's Concerto no. 23 KV 488.
Why should anyone care that she was Stalin's favorite
pianist? I wouldn't even care if Stalin was her favorite
world leader.
It shows in her playing -- for those who can hear. She
plays with a harsh percussive tone, and she stomps
the beats as if she were playing in a military band.
dk
I have painful memories of her Mozart sonatas being like that.

I hate people who pound the beat, it’s a trait of the worst harpsichord players. I just listened to her late Brahms. She does pound the pulse, sometimes horribly, but not incessantly. And there’s a very natural sounding rubato. Those things make it bearable for me. And it’s iconoclastic, which is always good. This Brahms is not an Edwardian gentleman wiping a nostalgic tear in his coat sleeves.

The tone is not very good, but not so terrible as to make it unlistenable.

The rubato is the magical thing, that’s what makes her valuable for me in the Brahms.
Henk vT
2020-11-20 18:56:31 UTC
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Yudina's Goldbergs are great.

Henk
Frank Berger
2020-11-20 20:04:48 UTC
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Yudina's Goldbergs are great.
Henk
You must admire Stalin.
Mandryka
2020-11-20 20:08:58 UTC
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Yudina's Goldbergs are great.
Henk
You must admire Stalin.
I thought the Goldberg's were horrible, too fast, too tense, nasty sound, no nuance, just constantly tense and relentless. What's the point of that? Honestly, all pianists should keep their mitts off Bach, but especially Yudina.
Henk vT
2020-11-20 22:52:59 UTC
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I thought the Goldberg's were horrible, too fast, too tense, nasty sound, no nuance, just constantly tense and relentless. What's the point of that? Honestly, all pianists should keep their mitts off Bach, but especially Yudina.
I didn't hear any of this, although I must admit that the sound isn't of the same quality as we are used to these days. Perhaps we are listening to different versions? Mine is from 1968.

Henk
Henk vT
2020-11-20 22:33:01 UTC
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You must admire Stalin.
Even worse: I must stomp the beat.

Henk
Néstor Castiglione
2020-11-20 20:14:12 UTC
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The great Maria Yudina died 50 years ago today, November 19, 1970.
Treat yourself today to some of her unique artistry.
R.I.P.
Her recording of Shostakovich's Piano Sonata No . 2 is my favorite of all. Idiosyncratic for sure; very flexible with tempi and phrasing. But no other reading brings out the spectral quality of this music, its ominous suggestiveness better than hers. Pity about her wretched piano and poor sound quality.

Up there for me, too, is her Schubert and Stravinsky.
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