Post by ***@gmail.comPost by Frank BergerWhat is it with your crusade against Bob's voicing his
opinions or view of the world?
I'm sorry that Bob finds reason to believe that others want to hear his views of the world, because they are almost always complaints and judgments of other people. Here he's complaining about "unwilling to listen to others opinions". I welcome a correction from him that suggests concretely that this really is a problem on both sides of the political spectrum instead of just the "woke" and "cancellers" he likes to complain about. His track record of aggressive, certain judgment doesn't make him a person who has an ounce of credibility as a generous, open, curious, sympathetic listener. He is here to offer judgment, period. That makes his complaint laughable.
It's called opinion. He's entitled to his. You sound as if
you don't think he is.
Post by ***@gmail.comPost by Frank BergerYour hectoring sounds a lot
like the very intolerence that he is complaining about.
I really think the two of you should think a bit more about what you say.
You are an arrogant, SOB, aren't you?
Was Bob complaining about people "not listening" or was he
complaining about "intolerance"? They are two different
things. But I've suggested that Bob's complaint about
"listening" was really a veiled judgment about those who
won't tolerate him or his beliefs, and you've showed us that
was more than likely.
When you say "us," you mean "you."
And that is worthy of criticism. He's offering words that
are self-interested and judgmental while offering a
self-image (open, listening, and so forth) that is false.
Rules for thee, not for me. That's what I hear.
All opinions are judgemental. Even yours.
Post by ***@gmail.comPost by Frank BergerYou are not just disagreeing with him. You are effectively
telling him to shut up. Nobody else, mind you, just him.
I don't have any complaint with Bob when he offers a musical opinion, do I?
He's entitled to offer any opinions on any topic, whether
you like it or not.
Are you saying that poor Bob just can't help himself, and
it's just oh, so not fair for me to think he could spare us
his world view
There you are telling him to shut up, again.
(and in response to Amazon cancelling comments on reviews,
as if you can't just write a review yourself mentioning the
other review, OH MY GOD, the cultural decline!!) If you
can't tell the difference between your considered,
thoughtful (and I know you wouldn't forget the mechanisms of
the market for a second), detailed offerings here and his
drive-by judgments, I'm sorry. As a tag team, it seems you
two will always be good cop, bad cop.
All you had to say was that you didn't see any reason to
assume that the deleting of Amazon comments had anything to
do with politics, or cancel culture or political
correctness. With which I completely agree. Then this
conversation would never have happened. But you had to make
what a amounts to a personal attack. As you have done many
times.
Post by ***@gmail.comPost by Frank BergerBecause you don't like his politics. If one person can prove his point, you have.
Again, I gave him a bit more credit than to assume that "unwillingness to listen to other opinions" was just selfish, but you keep talking as if it was. You've thrown him under the bus without realizing it.
I don't know what you mean by that, but it doesn't matter.
My response to you has nothing to do with whether I agree
with Bob, which I do on some things and don't on others.
In my perfect world, when someone offers an opinion here, I
would like to see people agree, disagree or ignore it with
logic, as if you were trying to win a high school debate.
Attacking the motives of the writer is cheap. And can never
win an argument on an issue, because it isn't one.